Person talk:Thomas Mann (29)

Which Thomas Mann married Mary Wheaton? [12 February 2012]

According to Torrey, the Thomas Mann (d. 1694) who married Mary Wheaton is different from the Thomas Mann (d. 1732) who married Sarah. Torrey gives a birth year of 1650 for both, but does not give a birth year in the first marriage of the Thomas Mann (d. 1694) who married Mary Wheaton second. So either:

- both Thomas Mann's were born in 1650 and this record is for the Thomas Mann who married Mary Wheaton but not Sarah Ensign

- this record is a combination of two Thomas Mann's - one born to Richard and Rebecca in 1650 and married to Sarah Ensign, and one who married Mary Wheaton and died in 1694

Do you know which situation is correct?--DataAnalyst 20:37, 9 February 2012 (EST)

According to the Mann Memorial, Thomas Man of Rehoboth (possibly son of James), who died at Providence 18 July 1694, married Mary Wheaton (p. 29). Thomas Man of Scituate, son of Richard, married one Sarah ----- (p. 61). Mr. Bowman bases his identification of Sarah Ensign as this Sarah on the fact that one of the sons, Ensign Man, who was not recorded but was named in Thomas's will, had that baptismal. He further argues that this Ensign Man, Ensign Otis son of Hannah³ Ensign, wife of Captain Stephen Otis, and Ensign Cole, whom I didn't have time to pursue before the library closed, were given that baptismal name to honor John Ensign who was killed by the Indians at Rehoboth during an engagement on 26 March 1676. The Ensign surname in that line died with him, and the only descendants of the immigrant Thomas Ensign of Scituate came through his daughters: Hannah who married Thomas Shepard; Sarah who married (second) Thomas Mann (no issue from first marriage); a second Hannah who married Thomas Wade and Hannah, his granddaughter through John, who married Captain Stephen Otis. Thus, any Ensigns found in colonial New England after John's death will be descended from Thomas Ensign's younger brother James Ensign of Hartford.

Thomas, the son of Richard and Rebecca, was born in Scituate, as his werelate record indicates. However, that Thomas was not the man who married Mary Wheaton and not the man who died 1694 in Providence. There may be later research, but when the Mann Memorial was published, the parents of the Rehoboth Thomas Mann had not been positively identified. The death of Thomas of Scituate is not recorded in the published Scituate vital records, however, the Mann Memorial includes his will, date 13 February 1723, proved 12 July 1732.

I apologize for not being able to finish work on this family before having to leave the library this afternoon.--jaques1724 23:26, 9 February 2012 (EST)

No problem. The original error was mine. Thanks for getting it all fixed up. --DataAnalyst 09:24, 12 February 2012 (EST)

Also see Robert Wakefield's 1976 article in TAG. He comes to the same conclusion but does it more coherently than I did.--jaques1724 00:46, 10 February 2012 (EST)