Person talk:Daniel Warren (14)

Do not merge this page with Person:Daniel Warren (17). These are two different people. Probably, to quote the Whitney Research Group website, "He and Capt. Daniel Warren are confused by Bond and others, but correctly straightened out by Sanderson." A discussion may be found on Person Talk:Daniel Warren (14). But, for now, two different pages are needed to document the marriages. Eventually one will be corrected resolving the duplicates.

Bond Error? [23 August 2017]

A book called Waltham as a Precinct of Watertown and as a Town, 1630-1884 by Edmund Lincoln Sanderson appears to suggest that Bond matched the wrong Daniel Warren to Hannah Bigelow and Mehitable Garfield. I do not have full access to it as it was published 1936 so not public domain yet, but try this. It says he was the son of Ensign John Warren (try this)M. It agrees with Bond, however, in thinking this Daniel Warren died in 1730's meaning he could not have participated in the French and Indian Wars. Further, there are various Daniels in Westborough, but none of them seem to be this one. This source says "He died early in 1731 but his widow lived on the homestead until her death in 1782, age ninety-three." I don't have any more details. --Jrich 01:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Would agree that Sanderson's work casts doubt on Bond's and Howe's work. Like you, I do not have access to the more recent source. For now, what's the best way to highlight this conflict on Daniel's person page in your opinion? -- a conflict that can hopefully be resolved in time and with more work...--Frank 02:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

At least four ways to highlight the conflict, not mutually exclusive:

• this Talk page already is doing the job
• leave the page as is and add a note to it explaining pretty much what is here on the Talk page, or referring to this Talk page. I would rather wait at least until I could investigate the above source in full though, so I can represent its position fairly.
• remove the parents, leaving him parentless. I don't see the point, since perhaps it is right, and if not, it's easy to change later if I find an answer.
• use the Speculative parents tag to identify both parents, but personally I hate the color: it looks you're marking an error rather than offering a possibility, and it doesn't put him on the various family pages, so what's the point?

I personally will probably do nothing in the hopes that if Sanderson found something, I may be able to find that same something in short order. Perhaps not if it requires digging through wills or deeds, since they are not my ancestors and that is more work than I wish to take on, but there may be an article out there that seems authoritative. And in the mean time, I will simply start collecting (primary, not secondary like Bond and Howe) sources on the various Daniels. Often, in doing this you run across something that resolves the issue and the whole mess goes away. If another course of action appeals to you, feel free... --Jrich 04:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. Will leave things 'as is' for now. Appreciate your efforts and input.--Frank 13:41, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Samuel Harrington, who married the widow of Ensign John Warren, bequeathed to the children of his second wife in his 1737 will, naming "Children of Daniel Warren late of Watertown dec'd" as one of the three (Middlesex Probate 10461), which appears to confirm that the Daniel Warren who married Hannah Bigelow and Mehitable Garfield, and d. in 1730 was the son of John Warren, not Daniel Warren. The probate file shows administration being granted to widow Mehitable (Middlesex 23832). Meanwhile Bond's own correction (which is incorrect!) shows the Daniel Warren who married Rebecca and Mary to be admitted to a church in 1738, so clearly not John's son. The probate of the father Daniel Warren shows administration going to "Daniel Warren of Westborough in Worcester County, Yeoman", and the son Daniel is involved in a distribution of his father's estate in 1737. Bond got them backwards. I am fixing the pages. --Jrich 23:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)