Person:Herbert Randall (1)

Watchers
m. 14 Jul 1864
  1. Eliza Mary (May) Randall1865 - Aft 1915
  2. Herbert Kenny Randall1871 - 1946
  3. Laura Edith Randall1875 - 1901
  4. Emerson Randall1877 - 1877
m. 25 Jan 1898
  1. Bessie Blanche Randall1898 - 1931
  2. Ray Thompson Randall1900 - 1975
Facts and Events
Name Herbert Kenny Randall
Gender Male
Birth? 1 Dec 1871 Pentwater, Oceana, Michigan, United States
Census[3][11] 7 Jun 1880 Pentwater, Oceana, Michigan, United States
Marriage 25 Jan 1898 Manistee, Manistee, Michigan, USAto Claudia Grace Thompson
Other 26 Jan 1898 Manistee, Manistee, Michigan, USAManistee (MI) Daily News Marriage Announcement - Newspaper
with Claudia Grace Thompson
Census[4][12] 1 Jun 1900 Manistee, Manistee, Michigan, United States
Census[5][13] 30 Apr 1910 Manistee, Manistee, Michigan, United States
Other[6][14] 21 Oct 1916 Manistee, Manistee, Michigan, United StatesManistee (MI) News-Advocate Newspaper Article
Other[7][15] 23 May 1919 Manistee News-Advocate Newspaper Article
Census[8][16] 12 Jan 1920 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Census[9][17] 12 Apr 1930 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Occupation? Ship Engineer
Death[1][2] 30 Nov 1946 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Burial? Oak Grove Cemetery, Manistee, Manistee Co., MI
Other[10][18] 2 Dec 1946 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United StatesDetroit (MI) Free Press Obituary

No record of birth found at the county level. Letter from Huron County Clerk, 13 Dec. 1984

No record of birth found at the state level. Letter from MI Dept. of Public Health, 26 Sept. 1974.

References
  1. Herbert K. Randall death certificate..
  2. Detroit Free Press (4).
  3. United States. 1880 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T9).
  4. United States. 1900 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T623).
  5. United States. 1910 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T624).
  6. Manistee News-Advocate (2)
    TWO MANISTEE MEN ABOARD BARGE LOST IN ERIE, 21 Oct. 1916.
  7. Manistee Historical Museum Card File.
  8. United States. 1920 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T625).
  9. United States. 1930 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T626).
  10. Detroit Free Press (4)
    Herbert Randall obituary, 2 Dec. 1946.
  11. Randall, A.N.; white; male; age 46; widowed, works in shingle mill;
    b.OH; father b.Mass.; mother b.NY
    ----- E.M.; white; female; age 15; daughter; single; at school;
    b.OH; father b.OH; mother b.OH
    ---- Herbert; white; male; age 8; son; single; at school;
    b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.OH
    ---- Edith; white; female; age 5; daughter; single
    b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.OH
    ----- Louisa; white; female; age 67; mother; widowed; keeping house
    b.NY; father b.Conn.; mother b.Mass.
  12. 1st Ward, Manistee:
    Thompson, Stacy; head; white; male; b.Jan. 1856; age 44; married 25 years;
    b.PA; father b.NY; mother b.PA occupation: real estate agent
    ----- Ida M.; wife; white; female; b.June 1857; age 43; married 25 years; 3 child/3 living;
    b.IL; father b.Wales; mother b.England
    ----- Walter S.; son; white; male; b.May 1877; age 23; single;
    b.MI; father b.PA; mother b.IL occupation: machinist
    ----- Florence M.; adopted daughter; white; female; b.Aug. 1893; age 6; single;
    b.MI; father b.unknown; mother b.Ohio
    Randall, Claudie; daughter; white; female; b.Dec. 1875; age 24; married 2 years;
    1 child/1 child living; b.MI; father b.PA; mother b.IL
    ----- Herbert; son-in-law; white; male; b.Dec. 1872; age 27; married 2 years;
    b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.OH; occupation: marine engineer
    Olsen, Emma; servant; white; female; b. June 1884; age 15; single;
    b.NY; father b.Sweden; mother b.Sweden
    (Bessie Blanche Randall - age 1 1/2 - is not listed on this page)
  13. Randall, Herbert K.; head; male; white; age 37; married (first) 12 years;
    b.OH; father b.OH; mother b.OH; occupation: engineer/steam boat
    ----- Claudia G.; wife; female; white; age 33; married (first) 12 years; 2 children/2 living;
    b.MI; father b.PA; mother b.OH
    ----- Bessie B.; daughter; female; white; age 11; single;
    b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.MI
    ----- Ray T.; son; male; white; age 9; single;
    b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.MI
  14. TWO MANISTEE MEN ABOARD BARGE LOST IN ERIE
    Telegram Says Local Men Were Saved When Barge Butters Sank

    Manistee men: Herbert K. Randall, Chief Engineer
    Varvey Raatz, Fireman

    The above-named Manistee and Ludington men were aboard the steamer Marshall Butters when she went down in Lake Erie last night.
    Herbert K. Randall of this city, chief engineer, is known to have been saved. Mrs. Randall received a telegram from him this afternoon sent from Painsville, O. The telegram stated that all members of the crew had been saved.
    The statement that all men were rescued is contradictory to the dispatch from Detroit.
    The Marshall Butters was well known in Manistee. The boat originally was owned by Marshall Butters of Ludington, but later became the possession of the Stearns Lumber company. She was a barge about 200 feet long.
    For years she has been trading from the local port. Last winter she was tied up here. The Manistee Iron Works installed a new boiler. Her stays were strengthened and she was given considerable interior repairing.
    Mr. Randall was aboard the Marshall Butters years ago, but later left her. He shipped out with her this spring and was aboard her throughout the season.

    (from a later paper)
    RESCUE CREW FROM LOST MARSHALL BUTTERS WITH WIND BLOWING HURRICANE

    Arriving home in the clothes in which he was saved, without vest and in his working cap, Herbert K. Randall, chief engineer of the Marshall Butters which went down in Lake Erie last week, tells a thrilling story of the rescue of the crew.
    "It was a terrible thing, but I don't think that a man of us entertained fear. We were too busy, each man working for himself, to be afraid of the possible ending." said Randall last night.
    "When we passed through Detroit there was a fresh southeast wind blowing, but not strong enough to detain us any until we had passed the southeast shoal by about 45 minutes. It was at 12:30 Friday afternoon that the squall struck us. We were six or eight miles from the shoal light at the time. When it was first noticed that a storm was coming the captain came aft and asked us to work her up stronger. This took us about 20 minutes. Heavy seas began to roll about this time and we noticed that the ship was leaking, taking in water fast.
    "I understood what this meant and went forward and asked Capt. McClure to put her into the sea or before it. Instead of doing this Capt. McClure put her in the trough, in an attempt to throw her deck load off and lighten her. We were loaded with lath and a small amount of lumber above decks and had we been successful in getting rid of this load we might have ridden the gale longer. As it was she would not throw and we ran in the trough for a few minutes longer, watching the water meanwhile. We had the pumps going but the water kept gaining on us steadily and I again reported to the captain.
    "We had seen the steamer Billings about five miles to leeward and Capt. McClure blew the alarm signal. They apparently did not hear us, for they paid no attention. In about 15 minutes another alarm signal was blown and then another. Finally the watchman on the Billings saw the steam from our whistle and the boat came about and started for us at once.
    "The steamer Hartwell had been in the distance all this while and seeing the Billings was heading for us, she also changed her course and came towards us, standing to shortly after the Billings had arrived.
    "By now the wind was blowing a hurricane, the seas were tremendous and our deck load was going by the board. Heavy pieces of planking were lifted off the deck and sent hurling through the air. Pieces of boards and shingles caught in the whistle, causing it to blow continually. It was a horrible sound and when I could stand it no longer, I risked my life and climbed up to where I could cut the cord.
    "About this time we got the starboard boat launched and eight of the crew, including myself, got in and cast off. The captain of the Hartwell hollered, "Come on with your boat," and we headed for the steamer. It was a terrific pull to get to her. The seas were rolling higher than the house tops - the wind so strong that you had to yell to a man only a few feet away to make him hear you.
    "After about 20 minutes we were able to get aboard the Hartwell. Looking back to the Butters we could see the rest of the crew, five men, standing on her deck. I guess we all lost our nerve then. It was awful to see them standing there helpless.
    "It was just one-half hour after this that the Butters broke up and went down. A few minutes before she went under the captain and one fireman took to the yawl and the other three jumped into the water.
    "The steamer Billings after being compelled to make three circles, picked up three men who were in the water and the captain and fireman got aboard without serious difficulty.
    "Remember that all this time the wind ws blowing 75 miles an hour and that the seas resembled small mountains. The Billings rolled terribly while standing by to pick us up. It was hard to get aboard without being smashed to pieces against the ship's side.
    "The Hartwell turned about and began a run before the wind. She was consigned to Fairport, but it was impossible to make the harbor and she went on to Erie. She turned here and went into the wind. It was 5:30 Saturday afternoon when we finally made the Fairport harbor.
    "We had all lost everything we had but were mighty glad to get in as we were."
  15. Herbert K. Randall and son Ray will leave tomorrow for Detroit where they will make their home.
  16. 66 Lincoln Ave.
    Randall, Herbert K., renting; male; white; age 48; married; b. OH; father b.OH; mother b.OH;
    occupation engineer for engine motor co.
    ----- Claudia; wife; female; white; age 44; married; b.MI; father b.MI; mother b.MI
    ----- Bessie; daughter; female; white; age 21; single; b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.MI;
    occupation stenographer at tire mould co.
    ----- Ray T., son; male; white; age 19; single; b.MI; father b.OH; mother b.MI
  17. 3214 Gladstone:
    Randall, Herbert K.; head; value of home $10,000; radio set; male; white; age 58; age at
    first marriage 26 years;
    b. MI; father b.OH; mother b.OH
    ----- Claudia G.; wife; female; white; age 54; age at first marriage 22 years;
    b. MI; father b. PA; mother b. OH
    ----- Raymond T.; son; male; white; age 29; single;
    b. MI; father b.MI; mother b.MI
  18. Randall - Nov. 30, 1946, of 8634 Carlin. Hubert K., father of Ray T. Randall. Funeral service at Chapel of McFarland Funeral Home, 5405 Schaefer Rd. Tues. 8 PM. Interment at Manistee, MI.