I wasn't real sure where to discuss this, so move this to a more appropriate area if need be.
I have a question regarding a somewhat hypothetical situation. Let's say that I have merged my tree with another user's tree on a particular branch. Things are good for several generations with each of us agreeing or providing proof and documentation as to the family names, dates, places, etc. Finally we come to a family where we disagree completely on the spouse. I believe the family is John DOE and Mary SMITH while my cousin believes the line should be John DOE and Mary BROWN. I have expanded my line in the SMITH direction while she has gone the BROWN direction. The way the tree stands on WeRelate is John DOE and Mary BROWN as the family. Let's say I disagree with that. How do I expand my line out further in the SMITH direction while my cousin goes the BROWN direction? If I add another family to John DOE's person page, i.e., spouse of John DOE and Mary SMITH, won't it look like he's been married twice? Merging trees is easy. Pulling out and branching off in a different direction once a merge has taken place is a little confusing to me. --Ronni 08:00, 12 June 2007 (MDT)
Thanks guys! I can see several avenues to go with this now. Personally, I would like to have the "Alternate" choice for the spouse that you mentioned Dallan. I have used the alternate field several times on varying pages more so to open up discussion or to show and document errors. I find it quite handy. :) An "alternate" field for spouse would show that there is a difference of opinion and then one could easily branch off from either family, whereas listing two families on the same page isn't as clear to me. My first impression would be that there were two different marriages, not a disagreement to the one marriage. --Ronni 07:30, 13 June 2007 (MDT)
Multiple marriages - can they be put in order? [7 July 2008]
Can an individual's marriages be listed in order on his/her person page? Gerard Alexander was married three times and each marriage is sourced and dated but on his page the third marriage is listed first, then the first, then the second. I can't find a way to fix this. Mary--Mstewart 10:32, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
This is a known problem, and it is on Dallan's to-do list. There is no easy way to fix this other than deleting the marriages and putting them back in the right order.
--Taylor 09:43, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
New Template for Family Pages? [8 April 2009]
Is it just me?
I really dislike the current template for family pages. For the most part (point me to some good examples where this is not the case, please), all the data is over in a narrow left-hand column, leaving a huge empty space in the main body of the page.
While I like this format for person pages, which then provides the narrative in the main body, my sense is that most family pages don't have the equivalent narrative-- that the bulk of the information is that which is found in the narrow left-hand column.
It would be much more attractive and readable if it were in the body of the page instead. It would also be great if it were more like a family group sheet or family registry.
Jillaine 14:16, 2 November 2008 (EST)
I think the concept of creating "biographies" or histories for persons also was intended for family units as well. It's not done as much, but there are some good examples:
--Ronni 16:56, 2 November 2008 (EST)
Other people have said they really like the family pages. Later this Spring I plan to display information for spouses, children, and parents on Person pages. (And the template will get a makeover as well.)--Dallan 09:01, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
Multiple Spouses vs Alternate spouse [23 December 2008]
I'd like to see a way (and maybe there is) of clearly identifying spouse 1 and spouse 2. It seems that right now they are shown as alternate spouse. Alternate spouse to me should be when there are two possible spouses and people are unsure.--Sheri 19:48, 5 December 2008 (EST)
I also wonder if somehow it should have shown up as two families. That makes sense to me but the gedcom seems to have not up loaded that way and I don't want to recreate second family pages if I should not plus who knows what that would do to the kids. Also at present with alternate spouse I think it is not showing who the real set of parents is.--Sheri 17:12, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Sorry for not responding earlier. It should have shown up as two families. Alternate spouses in the same family should be used when you're not sure which person the spouse is, not when a person remarries. Do you have an example family page that uploaded this way? I'd like to take a look at it.--Dallan 18:23, 19 December 2008 (EST)
jillaine 12:12, 21 December 2008 (EST)
The family in question is Family:John Emery and Mary Shatswell (1). From looking at the page history, it looks like the problem happened when Family:John Emery and Alice Grantham (1) was merged into this family by mistake. These are two separate families: the husband is the same person but the wife and children are different. They should not have been merged. You can , where a new wife and six children were added to the family.
Jillaine, you did this merge; you might want to make sure that you don't merge families with different spouses - two Family pages where one spouse is the same and the other is different should remain separate pages.
I edited the pages in question, removed the information that was incorrectly added to John and Mary's page during the merge, and edited and saved the pre-merge version of John and Alice's page, so it now looks just like it did before the merge. This unmerges the two families.
I believe part of the confusion stemmed from Person:Jonathan Emery (2) being incorrectly listed as a child of John and Alice. It looks like Jonathan was born in 1652, two years after John and Mary were married. So I put Jonathan as a child of John and Mary, not John and Alice. --Dallan 19:58, 22 December 2008 (EST)
It's not a problem. I bet most people have done a 'bad' merge at one point. Any merge can be unmerged (although I need to make unmerging easier).--Dallan 21:23, 23 December 2008 (EST)
Adoptive parents (a question...) [19 June 2009]
Is there a way to indicate adoptive parents and/or adopted children? I obviously can explain in the text what happened, but in the case I am thinking of, a person was raised by her aunt and uncle. She is noted in my tree as the child of her birth parents, and records indicate she retained a close connection to her birth family. During different census years she is shown with both her birth surname and her adoptive surname. At the time of her marriage she uses the surname of her adoptive family, although the marriage records indicate the names of her birth parents as her parents. I suspect that the adoption was probably not done through the legal system, though I haven't yet verified this.
I know I can add a second set of parents to a person page. Should I just indicate in the text that set number 2 is the adoptive parents?
In another case, a family in one of my trees has two sons, separated by less than 9 months, because one of the two was adopted. This adoption probably was done through the legal system, and I don't know who the natural parents are. Is there some way I should be indicating this?
Thanks, Brenda --Kennebec1 13:21, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
We don't have a special way of handling adoptions. I think you have the best solution. List both sets of parents and explain in the notes. :) --sq 21:29, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
Parents [1 May 2011]
How do I get the Parents to appear above the individuals name on the Family pages? Sometimes they appear automatically when the parents are linked to the individual in the family and sometimes not.
Specifically "Family:Aaron Holsapple and Ida Nicholas (4)". Aaron has his parents listed but Ida does not. I can't spot the difference between the links their person pages. Both their person pages display their parents.
Rick--Rick 17:07, 1 May 2011 (EDT)