Family talk:Samuel Burgess and Elizabeth Hopkins (2)


need sources [3 April 2012]

This page was created with no sources. The identification of the wife is very questionable. The Burgess Genealogy identifies the wife as Elizabeth ---. The Descendants of Stephen Hopkins in NEHGR 102:49 shows no such marriage for Elizabeth. Samuel and Elizabeth Burgess had children from 1704 to 1723 when Elizabeth Hopkins would have been 36 to 55. This seems unlikely. Some justification is needed. --Jrich 12:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

I descend from the daughter Elizabeth born in 1723 ..... the reported yr of death of her mother at age abt 55. This is a HIGHLY speculative line of thought especially since there is another child born in 1727. Based on my research background ..... I'd say it most probable that Samuel had another spouse whom he married prior to 1720.
Typical problem dealing with mistakes in a collaborative tree: the death of the wife is unsourced. It seems to be a common event for mothers that the birth of their last children gets entered as their death date (alternately their marriage date if no children). This appears to originate from family trees that originally say after that date, but sloppiness apparently causes the after qualifier to be lost causing bad data entry. In a quick search, I don't see any record of a death of Samuel's wife in 1723. His will mentions a wife Mary, probably the Mary Taylor who m. Yarmouth 1733 Samuel Burgess, though no mention of it is made in Burgess genealogy by Burgess, Ebenezer, p. 17.
Nor, as pointed out above, does there seem to be any evidence that she was Elizabeth Hopkins. In fact, this identification makes her significantly older than her husband which was actually fairly rare. The birthdate is based on the Hopkins name will go with Elizabeth's page whenever she gets fixed by somebody with a source. So it is attaching her to this page that is the potential problem. I will mark it questionable but do not know the right answer.
And can't help but point out, your lineage is immaterial. It provides no special powers when working on people this long ago. Sources are needed. --Jrich 22:37, 4 February 2019 (UTC)