User talk:Susyfreelove

Welcome [24 September 2013]

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UNFORTUNATELY ERROR 404 COMES UP INSTEAD OF THE TOUR! :(--Susyfreelove 19:11, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know, I'll inform Dallan, the site owner of the problem. --Jennifer (JBS66) 19:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

sources [23 September 2013]

Glad you are sharing your data, but without sources you're not really helping. You're just adding a bunch of pages that look like the junk genealogy found on all the other websites. Please take the time to add some sources, to say Person:Freelove Paine (1) and other pages. Clearly, for events in the 1800's and 1700's, it can't be first hand knowledge. If you don't know how to use the website, please learn before adding a bunch of pages wrong. Type Help:topic in the search box to get started. --Jrich 22:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

"the names are correct" [24 September 2013]

I saw your message to JSB66, and I am not sure what she is working on, but this is exactly why sources need to be cited. You said to me that your information is "legit" and to her you say "the names are correct". Why should someone believe this if you don't cite sources that can be verified? For example, you spelled Lloyd W. Manning as "Llyod", which would appear to be a typo. Yet you did it again in a different place as well. The town records of Templeton say it is Lloyd Willis Manning, so if you are working from some family document that says Llyod, that document has a typo. That is exactly why sources are needed. Since most of our incoming data is simply copied from other websites, much of it contains an inherited error. That is why, to the extent possible, it is desirable to find and cite the original source that makes us believe the facts are true, whether it is the vital records as recorded by the town clerk, a will as reviewed by the court, a diary of a person who witnessed something first hand, a census where the person relayed the facts themselves to the census taker, a gravestone carved to the specification of heirs, etc. We are all strangers to each other, and while at one time, people wanted to believe other people would do their best in compiling their genealogy, Internet genealogy has shown that to be a hopeless fallacy. That's why for some people you can literally find 100's of website proposing a fact that has been proven false, or why you can find half-a-dozen different arrangements for certain people. --Jrich 02:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

It was because I am dyslexic. I promise you this is my family history and it is important to me. I appreciate your attention to detail and truth. but i am not randomly trying to mess up anything. I have been working on this for over 10 years. I have seen many of the tombstones, I have been to many of the towns and I have personal documents from Carrie Manning as well as photos. I know my family tree i just dont have all the dates and citations yet.--Susyfreelove 08:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I find that few people are trying to mess up, the incidence of fraud is very low. On the other hand, how often do you check the possibility that the data is wrong, or do you just assume it's "legit"? This being a collaborative website, it has slightly different requirements to enable other people to work with the data you submit. In a few hours, I have been able to locate sources and confirm much of your data, as well as fix a few errors, and add a few items, so it is not that big a task. It is a matter of considering that it is for the reader, not for you, who already have all this information. And being your mother's line, one would think it should be even more important to you to know you have good information. The family traditions become much more valuable when they can be shown to align with the known facts. When there are no sources, people don't tend to have much respect for the data, and the first time it appears wrong, it tends to get erased. --Jrich 15:00, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I have been checking for over 10 years. the lines seem to be reconfirmed. As you said you can see that I am pretty much on track. I tried to delete Anne and Carol Locke as they are still living but I don't seem to be able too. Sorry.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ADDITIONS!--Susyfreelove 17:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted the pages for Anne and Carol Locke. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

OH and if you have anyway of checking Gideon Paine and Rebecca Courser b, 1703 from Swansea Bristol County Mass who moved to Smithfield Providence RI early 1700's They had 16 children of names I have. One of them being Freelove. Also Joshua Phillips of Smithfeild is apparently the son of Mary Mowry b.1668 and James Phillips both of Rhode Island. He is documented in land transactions in smithfield as well as in the history of hubbarston mass.

Also why are you interested in this line? Thanks for your help!--Susyfreelove 18:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)