User talk:Kpb2011

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[3 December 2011]

Hi Kpb2011,

When you have a moment, please take a look at your Duplicates List by going to My Relate>Show Duplicates. It’s a good idea to check this list on a regular basis. There are a few families there that are potential matches. We have an ongoing site-wide project to merge duplicates, but it is always better if somebody familiar with the families can make the merge. Here is our help page on merging. If you have any questions, just let me know. Thanks! --Jennifer (JBS66) 09:10, 3 December 2011 (EST)

Categories in need of attention [11 December 2011]

Hi Kpb2011, I noticed that you are working on the pages in the "Categories in need of attention" category. Thank you for that! Pages often appear in that category because they need to be both edited and renamed. For example, Person:Allie --- (1). In addition to changing the --- to Unknown on the edit screen, this Person page and her Family page each need to be renamed by clicking on Rename from the menu on the left. It is easier to do this at the same time you edit the page, because once the pages disappear from the category, they are harder to find later to rename. Let me know if you have any questions, --Jennifer (JBS66) 15:49, 11 December 2011 (EST)

Oh dear.... I get it !!... they are still in my contribution lists and will go back and sort them out!! Thanks!!--Kpb2011 15:54, 11 December 2011 (EST)

-- Any advise on renaming ? will the system auto add the number (i.e., Susan Unknown (2) )????

Funny, I was just leaving you a message about this... I believe that another user took care of the pages that were in the (Maiden-Name-Unknown) surname category. Also as an FYI, when we rename pages where there is an unknown spouse - we only use one Unknown instead of Unknown Unknown. Also, you don't need to add the index number after the names - the software will do that automatically for you. Again, thank you for your help cleaning up these categories! --Jennifer (JBS66) 16:02, 11 December 2011 (EST)

I am working on them now. But now I am hitting up against the too many edits in a certain frame error... Aaarrgghh Well it is what it is.--Kpb2011 16:12, 11 December 2011 (EST)

I didn't even know that WR had an error like that :-) --Jennifer (JBS66) 16:14, 11 December 2011 (EST)

LOL - ya well I can move around a keyboard pretty fast....--Kpb2011 16:15, 11 December 2011 (EST)

Renaming [19 December 2011]

On Person:Deborah Follett (1), you renamed this page to Nicholas Follett saying "reused entry for another family member". I am assuming you found that Deborah's page had been deleted. I believe you may be under the assumption that a rename is literally changing the title of the page. It is not. It creates a new page and then adds a redirect to the old page. So now you have a page for both Deborah and Nicholas. Further, anybody that, at some point in the past, captured a link to the Deborah Follett page would now be taken to the Nicholas Follett page which would not make any sense to them. Reusing Deborah's deleted page to be the same person it used to be is a reasonable if trivial savings, reusing it to be a different Deborah Follett is probably not a good idea in case the URL was saved previously, and renaming it doesn't seem to offer any benefit at all that I can see and therefore shouldn't be done. --Jrich 17:03, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Thank you for your note. I was helping clean up some entries on the "Need Attention" category and was instructed when changing a person's name like "Hannah (Mother)" to "Hannah Unknown", I not only change the name but also needed to rename the page from Person: Hannah Mother to Person: Hannah Unknown. This was also true if they were married and had a family page; the family page also needed to be renamed. The situation in this case seemed to be quite similar. I changed the name and so I renamed the page.

I understand the issue of prior links. In this case, I believe that I created them both today, so links are highly unlikely, but possible. It is not something that I regularly do. But in the future I will delete pages created in error instead of reusing them if that will be more helpful.--Kpb2011 17:13, 18 December 2011 (EST)

OK, I assumed the lack of history on the old page meant the family page might have had one of those red links to a deleted child that arise when people delete their tree. Probably not significant then. But deleting might still be better even in this case since technically you aren't "reusing" the page anyway, but creating a second one, and it might not be very intuitive if somebody stumbles across [[Person:Deborah Follett (1}]] and ends up redirected to Nicholas. (For example, I've seen some disambiguation pages where this might happen, e.g., Disambiguation:Thomas McSpadden.) --Jrich 22:56, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Went to delete Person:Deborah Follett (1) however JRich is on the watch list and there is not an option to delete the page. Do I recall correctly that a page can not be deleted if there is a watcher other than yourself?--Kpb2011 06:13, 19 December 2011 (EST)

If somebody else is watching you can't do the shortcut. If somebody else is watching, you add {{Speedy Delete|delete because ...}}, and an administrator will review it and decide if it should be deleted. In this case, I deleted the redirect to Nicholas and used the page to represent a real Deborah Follett, so it really did get reused. I think she was a cousin of Nicholas. --Jrich 09:54, 19 December 2011 (EST)

Deleting pages [23 December 2011]

I saw your recent note on an "Unknown" page. In addition to users deleting their own pages, they can also be marked for Speedy Delete. These pages are then reviewed by an admin who can delete the page. I'll go ahead and delete the page you noted. --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:31, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Thanks for the note and reminder. I forgot about the speedy delete option.--Kpb2011 11:34, 23 December 2011 (EST)

William Smead (8) [7 June 2012]

Hi,

This page appears to be linked in the wrong place. This couple had two children named William Smead, b. 16 Dec 1701 and 5 Jan 1712. I'd fix it, but I don't know for sure where he belongs. See Samuel Smead (5) for birth image.

Thanks, --Txbluebell6 14:35, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

I moved it. That William was Samuel's brother, the source on the page said so, and I assumed it was a simply slip in data entry. --Jrich 17:25, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Albert Woodbury (1822-1904) [21 October 2012]

Hi Kpb2011,

Albert Woodbury b. 10 May 1822 Westbrook, Cumberland, Maine, USA, and d. 18 Nov 1904 in Tilton Belknap, New Hampshire, USA. He is buried in the Marshall Cemetery in Bradford, Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA. I have a photo of his headstone which gives the date of death as Mar. 24, 1904

Albert, d. 18 Nov 1904, Tilton, NH

- NH State Vital Records, Concord, NH

Albert served in the Civil War. Albert died at the Soldiers Home in Tilton, NH

1880 Census Place: Bradford, Merrimack, New Hampshire Source: FHL Film 1254765 National Archives Film T9-0765 Page 62C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birth Albert WOODBURY Self M M W 59 ME Occ: Farmer Fa: ME Mo: ME Paulina WOODBURY Wife F M W 59 NH Occ: Keeping House Fa: NH Mo: NH

Albert m. Pauline (8) Sargent b. c. 21 Jan 1822 in Bradford, Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA, and d. 21 Jul 1893 in Bradford, Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA. Pauline is buried in the Marshall cemetery as well.

Pauline d/o Asa (7) Sargent (c. 1784-1871) & Sarah Marshall (1788- )

Excerpt of "Families of Bradford, NH, Page #363. Received by email 09-08-2012 from Carey Rodd c_rodd@mcttelecom.com

b. ca 21 Jan 1822 [calc./d.rec] and d. 21 Jul 1893 a married woman in Bradford aged 71 yrs 6 mos [BVR1893/1905:3]. She lived with her parents in Dracut Mass in 1850 and m. Albert WOODBURY.--Uneeke1 14:35, 21 October 2012 (EDT)