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Thompsons [26 February 2021]

Greetings Again JR5280:

I am resorting to a personal message to continue our discussion on the Talk Page of Early Settlers o Augusta. I probably should have posted originally on the William Thompson Jr. page, but I am still learning how to navigate WeRelate. Our conversation is getting into a lot of detail that may be of little interest to others looking for broader information about Early Augusta. So, I hope this direct message is OK with you.

Thanks for the information in your replies and suggestions to help me figure the Andrew : William connection. I don’t think there is an answer at this time. I have spent a couple years scouring the internet and reading available books etc. (Pendelton, Waddell, Peyton, Summers), to no avail. However the DNA results are compelling.

I am confident that I am a descendant of Andrew Thompson (1750 Ireland – 1843 Virginia). This is the Andrew that Cragun (1995, available on FamilySearch) wrote about. I have solid documentation and genetic connections with many of his descendants, including Y DNA (FTDNA). However Cragun did not identify Andrew’s parents. I have corresponded with him; he does not know. And this is NOT the Andrew who is the son of the Thompson Valley William; I am not related to that line.

I do believe that Andrew is “probably” related to William Jr and Mary Patton. But as we both agree, there is NO documentation to support that. None of Wm and Mary’s other children were born in Ireland. But we have no real documentation that Andrew was born there other than Cragun said so. Knowing the circumstances of Andrew’s birth would be wonderful. Nor can I explain why Andrew is nowhere mentioned as a son of William (except by quite a few modern genealogy sites). I cannot rule out the alternative that he is an unrelated Thompson that arrived in America in the early 1770s. As I said previously, all I want is just one good document or record that links Andrew to William. May never happen!

All this is on FamilySearch.org. (FREE). My Andrew is (Family Search ID: LJKC-BYC). He would be the brother of your James Thompson, born, 1750. And, that is the tantalizing hint I referred to from the book: James Patton and the Appalachian Colonists, by Johnson, 1973, that refers to a 1751 letter written by Col. James Patton, that referred to TWO young sons of William and Mary; probably James, but who was the other?

Genetic testing has provided a reliable weight of evidence of a probable relationship to William and Mary. Several matches of mine- and other descendants of Andrew’s DNA were found with DNA from several of William and Mary’s descendants, and with other Pattons. This evidence cannot be ignored and strongly suggests a relationship between Andrew and William Jr. Have you done any genetic DNA testing? I’d be glad to share those results. Do you know of any direct line Thompson men from William and Mary that might be willing to have a Y DNA test?

So, Andrew appears to be a heretofore unknown son of William and Mary. It’s the details of that that I am looking for.

I don't know your name, but assume you are related to William and Mary through son James. Is that right. I am very familiar with his son J. Preston, as at one time I thought he might be in my line. You can email me directly at brucet01@att.net

Regards, Bruce Thompson--BThompson01 23:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Reply to your post re: William Thompson [5 October 2021]

Greetings Andrew ? Thanks for responding to my post about the William Thompsons on ESA. I believe I am also a descendant of Capt. Wm. Thompson and Mary Patton, assuming that their son was Andrew Thompson. I have good genetic matching evidence of that, but NO paper trail, so have been trying to work back from William’s father.

Here is what I was trying to say in William Sr. (b: 1680; m: Jean Stuart) person post on Early Settlers of Augusta (ESA). But first, to clarify, I use the ESA numerical designations, so William Sr. is “Thompson 249”, and William of Tinkling Springs is “Thompson 289”. It is the distinction between those two Williams that I was questioning. William (of Thompson Valley, Tazewell Co.) is not listed among the ESA Williams (see Register), so he was not one of the Williams I was questioning. As stated in my original post, it sure looks like Thompson 249 and Thompson 289 could be the same person. I can explain why I think that, in more detail, if interested.

Currently my priority is to find a “paper” link between William Jr. (Thompson 250) and his son Andrew. But, also seeking other direct Thompson male descendants of William Sr. (250) that might provide further genetic evidence (again I can explain more, if interested). Are you a Thompson? Have you ever seen a “source” that links Wm. Jr. (250) to his son Andrew? Have you done any autosomal DNA testing?

FYI, my line is from Andrew to Francis to Harvey to Elbert our tree is on Family Search, and includes a probable link between William Jr and Mary Patton to Andrew.

Thanks, it is a bit complicated with all the Williams. Feel free to email me directly at brucet01@att.net. With Best Regards, Bruce Thompson--BThompson01 18:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

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