User talk:Benwade



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Susannah Prence - bring your sources [21 April 2012]

This is a shared space. It should be obvious then that to get other people to accept your conclusions you must provide your evidence. Saying Jonathan Wade's wife is Susannah Prence without providing your sources is not acceptable. Further since Robert Charles Anderson says his wife's maiden name is unknown and he is probably universally regarded as the best genealogist practicing today, these sources are going to need to be primary sources, such as parish registers, wills, deed or other contemporary documents in order to have enough credibility to be accepted over him. --Jrich 14:21, 20 April 2012 (EDT)

My apologies. I found the information that Susanna Wade was the sister of Gov. Thomas Prence IV on and accepted it uncritically.

In my defense, I should note that the same information is given on here regarding Prudence Wade Crosby Cotton Hammond, and it gives supporting references. The same statement is also found here here regarding Major Nathaniel Wade

Thanks, Ben Wade--Ben 22:17, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

There's actually one book that I found that says so too, but that doesn't make it right. The book, of course, never explains how it knows, but simply assumes the reader will accept their word, as you say, "uncritically". (Further clouding the issue, disproving things is difficult. In this case, it is not disproven, merely unlikely. Some explanation would be necessary to counter the fact that the father, Thomas Prence, in 1630 didn't mention a daughter Susannah in his will. That is not normal, and unless a birth or marriage record or deed or some unimpeachable source is found for Susannah m. Jonathan Wade, it is not likely enough to warrant even a "perhaps".) The tendency of people to be uncritical is why it is so necessary to find the primary documents that cause people to believe such stuff in the first place (primary=documents that are contemporary to the event written either by a person with first hand knowledge or a institutional employee whose job it is to record such events). Because when you do the work to dig down to the original basis for these controversial facts, you find that much of the stuff that is presented on the Internet started as somebody's guess, and another person copied it but left out the guess part, and pretty soon there are 100's of Internet sites presenting it as proven fact, and it is actually wrong. And for some reason, people that do genealogy that way, tend to have horrible instincts about which guess is reasonable, and which is not. If you only post data for which you can cite a source that has a primary basis, then usually you will make a much, much smaller number of errors. Some things are simply unknown, and you have to recognize that people feel a pressure to fill-in the blanks, which leads them to take shortcuts. So when there's no source for an attractive fact, that's probably why, and as the Grateful Dead said, "I had to learn the hard way to let her pass by". --Jrich 23:06, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

GEDCOM Export Ready [3 September 2012]

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GEDCOM Export Ready [3 March 2013]

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GEDCOM Export Ready [19 October 2016]

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Recent Place page addition [7 March 2017]

Re: Place:Marriage of Samuel to Martha Upham in Malden, Massachusetts, United States.
It looks like something went amiss here where you have added a Place page for a marriage (?). I am happy to help you fix it if you tell me what you were trying to do. --cos1776 16:07, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Admin follow up: No response. Marriage fact has been moved to Family page and linked to correct Place page for Malden, and incorrect Place page above has been deleted.If you have any questions, please leave a message here on your Talk page, and one of our volunteers will respond shortly. Thank you, --cos1776 22:57, 7 March 2017 (UTC)