User:Kennebec1/Source update questions


Items now manuscripts, becoming??

Nothing links here, and I think it should probably go away? It seems to be a personal web page, mostly? Does anyone disagree?
"To help us think, talk and teach about the rights and responsibilities of citizens in our democracy, we invite you to explore 100 milestone documents of American history. These documents reflect our diversity and our unity, our past and our future, and mostly our commitment as a nation to continue to strive to "form a more perfect union." "
This needs a better page name than "Our Documents." although that is the name of the website. This is a good argument for making the page name include a "publisher" (i.e. the creator of the website, or the physical holder of the documents) as part of the name. In this case, National History Day, The National Archives and Records Administration, and USA Freedom Corps are the co-creators, the documents are in lots of locations.
Other comments: is this a repository? Is this a redundant entry of NARA? The useage in We Relate is a redirect from a Chinese Exclusion Act source, but neither source seems to link to a Person page. Maybe this is best seen as a finding aid. It is an awesome site...
"The Department of Special Collections' Civil War manuscript classification includes all manuscript groups originating, wholly or primarily, in North America in the years 1861 to 1865. Also included are later manuscript groups of immediate relevance to the Civil War. "Manuscripts of the American Civil War" contains collection-level descriptions of the Department's processed holdings, which may be accessed via the menu to the left. Individual collections are typically distinguished by unity of provenance; consequently, the collections described on this site vary greatly in size, from a single manuscript to more than two hundred.
"In addition, "Manuscripts of the American Civil War" includes images and textual transcriptions of many of the Department's Civil War manuscript collections. Items thus far scanned and transcribed include one topical collection, one collection of personal papers, five diaries, 27 personal letter groups or correspondences, comprising a total of more than 400 letters, and two military records."

University of Notre Dame Rare Books and Special Collections

changed to Misc and added info. Should this be a repository? I would think that Notre Dame's Rare Books and Special Collections location would be the repository. But this is a "collection of collections" in part. So maybe it is a repository and not a source. But then each item at the repository (some of which are on line, some of which are available only at Notre Dame) would be eligible to be a source. Most would be of the Misc. type, as they are all "collections."
Maybe this should really be a Finding Aid (a representation of a portion of the collection of one particular repository) for this repository and added to the article about the Civil War. It does not appear to be linked to by anyone. It is a great collection and well presented.

One family collection of correspondence with original images and transcriptions on a website. This seems to be a useful, albeit one name, site with lots of letters (images and transcriptions. I'll change it to misc. for now, but maybe it should go away? No one has linked here that I see.

IMicrofilm of transcripts housed in the National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth. Includes a transcript by Gwilym Cowlyd of an old ms. in Welsh containing brief histories, poetry, and a list of principalities, cantrefs, etc. in Wales; a portion of George Owen Hari's "The Genealogy of the High and Might Monarch, James ... King of Great Brittayne..." (from Brutus, 1103 B.C., written in London, 1604); the Miscellany (names of the 24 kings of the "Britons who were accounted the most powerful and bravest conquerors, and who built cities ..." beginning with Brutus ap Sylus ap Yscanus ap Eneas , 1103 B.C., who built New Troy, now known as London, to Cadwaladr, about 650 A.D.). National Library of Wales no.: NLW 13897

changed to misc. This is a manuscript and text collection on microfilm from various times and sources, so I can't see any other way to name it. Again, a page name of Title.Location. Source: Welsh Pedigrees (National Library of Wales) would be most useful, I think.
This would be a government/church record, except that it has been grouped by the FHL into this odd miscellaneous records category, covering different locations (albeit all in Florida). Either we call it Records and make the Florida DAR the author/compiler, or we call it Misc. If Records, title would be "Florida. St. John's Episcopal Church, Tallahassee, Florida; Alachua County marriages, 1837-1870; miscellaneous Florida records." If Misc., the page title would/could be: "Florida Daughters of the American Revolution. St. John's Episcopal Church, Tallahassee, Florida; Alachua County marriages, 1837-1870; miscellaneous Florida records."
It is really unclear what this source it. FHL says it is from Nova Scotia; the only likely item in the catalog to the Archives in Nova Scotia is:

Brownell, J. Archer Brownell genealogy : from Thomas of Rawmarsh, England through William George. [Windsor Jct., N.S.?] : J.A. Brownell, [1982?]. 1 v. (various pagings) ; 28 cm.

It may well be the collection of materials from whence this book was created, tho. I can't tell from the FHL description.
The only thing that links here is the OTHER brownell collection Source:Brownell Collection--Genealogical Records of Brownell and Allied Families which is a great example of what a "Manuscript Collection" type is useful for. I'm inclined leave it as Misc. until more info can be found.
Jillaine piping in here; this source is a great reason why we should keep "Manuscript" as a type. Because that's what this is. Or perhaps the "Personal research" that I've recommended elsewhere. It's pages and pages and volumes and volumes of typed notes. It's so incredibly important it's accepted as sufficient proof by DAR. If I only had to choose between "Misc" and "Book" I'd choose "Book" even though it's not. jillaine 13:44, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
Whether misc. or book (and I'd choose Misc., because it just isn't a book) page name becomes "Brownell, E. E. Genealogical records of Brownell and allied families" But I agree with Jillaine that this is really a Manuscript collection. - Brenda

Either make mysource? or Miscellaneous? Bible record used for 4 people. I've changed it to misc. for now. But it's not exactly a book, except that it is one discreet document.
I think this is government/Church records, not book; now cat as book. Was Manuscript before. Any thoughts?

See the link on these pages for a description of what a Pleve chart is. I'm inclined to make these misc, as they are family trees - graphic as well as text. Any

Page name will be recreated to be more accurate. This is a web site version of a 17 volume publication, with additional information (more photographs) on the web site. So should this be a BOOK and renamed to the original title, with the web page as a repository? or because there is additional information stay a Miscellaneous page?
This is part of a larger book that is also a source. I'm going to combine it with the larger source, as it hasn't been linked to.
  • DAR Applications/materials.
There were a handful of pages on the original list that I may have converted to Books in error. But perhaps they represent a type of source that is the microfilmed version of the "family tree website."
On the one hand, maybe these applications are too narrowly focused to be sources, and should be MySources. On the other hand they are old enough (rev. war) lineages to involve a lot of descendants.
The ones I remember were application packets, so letters plus genealogical materials. In retrospect, that sounds like a misc. At the time I must have thought a "letter" was kind of like a book? I can't really defend it... ;-)
    Sewell, Mrs. Frank A. Oklahoma Daughters of the American Revolution, Genealogical Library Catalogue


Source:The Palmers of Stonington & Allied Families Defer to Jillaine... :-)

  • Sent her email
Sheesh... finally found it here: Google books. It's a 70-page book. I just made it Book. Sheesh. Another reason to keep Manuscript. jillaine 13:44, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
This is going to have a weird title as a book. Should editor be author?
I'd go with editor, resulting in: Hosmer, James Kendall. Winthrop's Journal, History of New England 1630-1649
jillaine 13:44, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

"Microfilm of original records housed in the Albertland & Districts Museum, Wellsford, New Zealand.

Compilation of families primarily from England who settled in the former Albertland district of New Zealand. No information is available regarding the compilation of the family histories.

Includes Bartlett, Becroft, Bennett, Neal, Brookes, Eyre, Cray, Cutforth, Legge, Marsh, Prictor, Quickfall, Ramsbottom, Rice, Sellars, Shepherd, Longbottom, Colebrook, Swatland, Gubb, Wharfe and other families."