Template talk:Category


Use in Savage [7 January 2014]

I found this when I noticed that the Mayflower category [1] has a bunch of transcript pages at the top. I see your explanation says:

Notice that the sort field parameter is given, but left as a space. In this way, the sorted category does not mix pages for participants in the actions and the source transcript pages that refer to the action.

I haven't had much coffee this morning, but I don't understand what you're going for here. Using a space in the template language on the transcript page puts the transcript page in the category, which is fine, but putting it at the top seems not at all useful, particularly in categories like "passengers" that are focused on actual people. We don't want 120 transcript pages to crowd out the actual links to person pages. If you give the sort category as nothing, wouldn't everything sort under T and solve the problem?--Amelia 16:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I wanted the Person pages to sort alphabetically, and the other pages to be separated in front or after the people. I guess I agree that having a bunch of special pages ahead of the Person pages isn't to be desired, but I hadn't thought much about how else to separate them. I guess I could look at an ASCII chart and see if there are something appropriate to push those pages to the other end of the list... --jrm03063 16:49, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
PS - I just looked at an ascii chart - perhaps the special characters following the upper case letters would work for this purpose {'[', '\', ']', '^', '_', '`'} or the special characters after lower case {'{', '|', '}', '~'}, stripping away the characters that have wiki semantics, perhaps that leaves {'\', '^', '_', '`', '~}. I guess I'ld have to experiment some... --jrm03063 16:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
PPS - I just added a couple of experimental examples to the end of the Mayflower Passengers Category. See is any of those appeal to you... --jrm03063 17:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)