Person talk:William Hyde (16)

From William Hyde (18): Does Anyone Know Where This Came From ? [18 July 2012]

Moved from William Hyde's person page:

"William Hyde, son of Robert and Beatrice was born abt 1600 in Stockport. "He came to America from Chestershire (Cheshire), Eng. He descended from de Warrene, Stanley and Ferrers families of England. The name of Hyde appears in the Saxon Annals of England. Ann Hyde, daughter of the Earl of Clarendon, married the Duke of York, who became King James II. The ancestry of William Hyde is traced to Emperor Charlemagne through the Barons Roger Bigod, Hugh Bigod, John de Lacie, Robert FitzWalter, William de Malet, Saire de Quincey, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, Henry de Bohun and Robert de Vere."

Sounds like a late 19th century invention. Reuben Hyde Walworth, in the massive Hyde Genealogy (1864) wrote that "William Hyde (1) the first of Norwich, was a cotemporary of Sir Robert Hyde and of the Earl of Clarendon; but was undoubtedly of humbler origin. I have not been able to ascertain from what part of England he came; to what family he belonged; or where he first landed in this country, or the precise time when he arrived here." A review of PERSI and other subsequent literature does not turn up anything which would substantiate that origin for William Hyde--jaques1724 22:34, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

The following implies it was taken from Burkes Landed Gentry, found at http://todmar.net/ancestry/hyde_main.htm:

14. Robert Hyde, son of Robert and Jane, "eldest son, of Norbury and Half Hyde, Esq., living at the Visitation in 1580. He married Beatrice Calverly, daughter of William Calverly, of Calverly, County Ebor. They had 6 sons Hamnet, aged 17 in 1580, died May 1643, Robert, Thomas, William, Urian and John; and 8 daughters Elizabeth, Alice, Jane, Margaret, Beatrix, Anne, Mary and Catherine. (This is the line as given in Ormerod's History of Cheshire, and this Robert's son William is the one given in Burke's Landed Gentry as the William Hyde who came to New England. E. E. W.)" He died on March 22, 1614 in Stockport.

15. William Hyde, son of Robert and Beatrice was born abt 1600 in Stockport. "He came to America from Chestershire (Cheshire), Eng. He descended from de Warrene, Stanley and Ferrers families of England. The name of Hyde appears in the Saxon Annals of England. Ann Hyde, daughter of the Earl of Clarendon, married the Duke of York, who became King James II. The ancestry of William Hyde is traced to Emperor Charlemagne through the Barons Roger Bigod, Hugh Bigod, John de Lacie, Robert FitzWalter, William de Malet, Saire de Quincey, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, Henry de Bohun and Robert de Vere. William married second June 4, 1667, Joanna Abell, widow of Robert Abell. No children from this marriage. William Hyde "Founder and original proprietor of Hartford, 1636. Selectman 1637." (This is stated on a monument in an old graveyard of First Church of Hartford, Conn.) Founder and landed proprietor of Norwich, Conn." William died on January 6, 1681 in Norwich, CT.--Scot 15:27, 25 July 2012 (EDT)