Person talk:Isaac Newton (19)

death date [29 September 2011]

The death date on this page "19 May 1771 Stafford, Tolland, Connecticut, United States" was removed because it appears to belong to a different person. Source:Connecticut, United States. Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records, Vol 44, p. 113 shows the death in Stafford of Newton, Isaac, s. Moses & Persis, d. May 19, 1771 [2, 16]. This Isaac's parents were Moses & Sarah so it is not his death record, it is his grandson's death record. There is no record of this Isaac's death in Stafford. Ermina Leonard in the Newton Genealogy raises the possibility that the reports of Isaac's death in 1771 may have been based on a misapplication of the above record, which she never saw, but had seen applied to both Isaac and his grandson Isaac. She was unaware of the existence of the grandson so assumed it applied to the grandfather. Now having access to the record, and seeing that it does apply to the grandson, we are left with no real evidence about when and where Isaac died. --Jrich 13:34, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

As shown in Note 4 she was aware of the existence of the grandson Isaac but questioned whose death (grandfather or grandson) had been recorded. Clearly it was the grandson's death that had been recorded.

[Please remember to sign your posts for future readers' benefits.] She clearly never saw the record as she would not have questioned who it applied to if she had, nor said "unless there were two deaths recorded" because seeing the records would have shown this to be true or false. I believe she had conflicting information from collaborators and failed to removed all the contradictory information during her editing. Probably it is her talking on p. 186 and a collaborators data on p. 187. Perhaps she meant "there was no such death record for the grandson" but what she actually says on p. 186 was "there was no such grandson", and given the contradictory information on p. 187 and p. 186, trying to figure out what she meant is problematical at best. --Jrich 14:38, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

After all, if she thought the death record applied to the grandfather as she says on p. 186, then it removes all evidence that a grandson named Isaac existed, and so her statement on p. 186 that there was no such grandson makes sense as written. --Jrich 15:02, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

This is a minor edit? [30 September 2011]

15:19, 29 September 2011 Jrich (contribs) m (merge notes about death date, cleaned up werelate links)

Although I do not object to the content of this change (I considered it myself), I think it fair to say that restructuring the page by merging notes into the description is hardly a minor edit.

I only flag edits as minor if they are correcting obvious typos etc (eg the double "Tt" I fixed on this page).

I do not appreciate having to repeatedly circle back to pages where I have made recent changes to see what else may have since been done - and this is not the first time the "minor edit" flag has been misused to fly under the radar.--Jhamstra 17:43, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

I did not change any facts on the page, nor add in information. All I did was rearrange the page by taking the standalone note and combining it with the last paragraph of the narrative which was discussing the same topic. A minor edit. You do not have to cycle around pages. See Help:Watchlist. --Jrich 18:38, 30 September 2011 (EDT)