Person talk:Hannah Merriam (1)

Source for Hannah's Marriages? [7 August 2012]

What are the sources for Hannah being married to anyone other than a Taylor?

1. Robert Merriam's 1681 Will (he was brother of Joseph, Hannah's father) calls her Anna Taylor. This will also mentions cousins Jonathan Hubbard (who lives with me) and John Buss. There is no tie between them and Hannah Merriam.
2. In NEHGR 22(1868):160, this same will is fully transcribed; Jonathan Hubbard has a notation that he was nephew to Robert Merriam; John Buss is again called cousin.

I see no evidence that Hannah Merriam married a Buss or a Burnham.

Jillaine 11:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

Cousin, meaning nephew, therefore, presumed to have married a niece.

Marlborough VRs: Tayler, William and Hannah Axtell, July 16, 1677. M.R. Meriam genealogy: daughter of George, Hannah Axdell of Marlbury in her father's will, her first husband Henry Axtell. Ironically, this source gives William Taylor death date of 1696 despite Concord VRS clearly saying husband of Mary!

Putnam's Magazine Jonathan Hubbard related to Robert's wife (mother probably a Sheafe) m. Hannah Rice

Cutter and Crane: unnamed daughter of Joseph m. John Buss --Jrich 12:46, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

jrich,

Different William Taylor. There were two of them. He of Concord (only one wife-- Mary Merriam?) and he of Marlborough-- likely at least a generation younger-- and with four different wives, one of whom was the Hannah you mention above. Concord william died in 1696 in Concord, followed by his widow Mary in 1699. Marlborough William died in 1706, survived by his fourth wive, Sarah Wheeler.

But whichever William we're discussing, I still see no evidence that Hannah Merriam, dau of Joseph, married anyone other than a Taylor-- which we don't yet know.

Jillaine 18:18, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

Robert Merriam mentioned Hannah Taylor, but whose daughter did he say she was: George's or Joseph's? Neither, it is a single list of both their children combined. Elizabeth Hinchksmans seems to be the only daughter of Joseph mentioned. In 1682, George's daughter was married to William Taylor,

what's the proof that George's Hannah was she married to William Taylor? Is it thru the Axtel marriage? I haven't yet found confirmation of the ties.

As pointed out above, VR Marlborough has marriage William Taylor to Hannah Axtell, and she is called Hannah Axtell in her father's 1675 will which is transcribed in Merriam genealogy. Hannah's surname is left off the 1665 Marlborough marriage record to Henry Axtel, but there is already sufficient information to establish who she is. There may be even more? --Jrich 09:12, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Thanks, I was unaware of (or hadn't caught) the reference to Hannah Axtell in George Merriam's will. I will admit that my familiarity with the Merriam side is not very strong. My personal interest is in the earliest Taylors of Massachusetts, so I come at all this from that direction. That said, this dive into the Merriams has been very helpful for me. Jillaine 11:49, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

and so would be known as Hannah Taylor. Why would you think this reference doesn't refer to George's daughter? Then, if that is true, I don't see any proof that Joseph's daughter did marry a Taylor.

So given the need to explain how John Buss qualifies as a cousin/nephew, the obvious assumption is that he married a niece. Since only one Hannah is mentioned but two seemingly should have been, it is assumed the other was covered by the mention of her husband, so the assumption is that Hannah, daughter of Joseph, married John Buss, making him a cousin/nephew. No proof, but very plausible. --Jrich 19:13, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

this makes sense if there are no other daughters of Joseph. I need to see all this laid out. Time for pen and paper. Or do you feel the previously published Merriam genealogies make sufficient case? Jillaine 08:03, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

I haven't done a complete search myself, was just trying to justify why Crane and Cutter would reach their conclusion. However, the agreement of heirs of Joseph with their step-father Joseph Wheeler in 1667 mentioned on Mary Merriam's talk page, is likely to help here too. If Hannah was alive in 1637, chances are she was married by 1667, and one would expect her husband and/or her signed that agreement too. --Jrich 09:12, 7 August 2012 (EDT)