Person talk:Anna Unknown (1515)

daughter of Matthew? [19 July 2017]

"The author is one of 50 members of FASG." - this is not evidence.

"It does appear indeed she was Anne Whipple daughter of Matthew1 Whipple." - nothing in the post provides any evidence of this connection. It only shows that the same woman married John Annable and Nicholas Clapp, which is not controversial. Matthew Whipple's will mentions a daughter Anna but only by given name.

Addendum: the nearest copy of the full article is in a library 700 miles away, but I have viewed a snippet view of the cited paragraph and it has nothing additional, in particular, no footnote attached to the marriage assertion. So if there is evidence provided in the article, none being posted in the citation of it, it will need to be provided by somebody else. But tortuous searching could not trick Google snippet views into displaying any. Further Blaine Whipple's 15 Generations of Whipples says the same thing and also shows no evidence. He has a transcription of a deed wherein John Anniball buys Matthew Whipples house from the estate and the deed gives no sign of any relationship of him to the Whipples, though Blaine Whipple leadingly titles the section "Sale of Matthew Whipple's Property to John Annibal, His Son-in-Law", solely on the authority of his own unsupported assertion (since he is not called brother, son-in-law, husband of a daughter, kinsman, or any other relationship, just tailor of Ipswich). He also gives a transcription of the will naming daughter "Anna" with no surname, nor indication of her current marital state. Incidentally Matthew gives all three daughters the same amount, i.e., not less to Anna because she was married, while Mary not yet. There is no marriage record to John Anniball giving her maiden name. There is no birth record for Anna, no death date nor age at death for the wife of Nicholas Clapp, so no way to determine if she was even of an appropriate age to marry John Anniball in 1647. The birth estimate appears to be based solely on the need to make her old enough to have married by 1647 John Anniball (since her father's will names her 2nd of 3 daughters, though it may not reflect birth order), i.e., circular logic. John and Anna named no son Matthew. I'm sure somebody had a reason to suggest it was Anna Whipple, originally, but too many sources do us the disservice of not communicating that reason, be it assumption or evidence, and until that reason is made known, there are enough inconsistencies to think it equally or more likely that it was somebody else. --Jrich 14:02, 19 July 2017 (UTC)