Person:William Carbis (3)

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William Carbis
chr.5 Apr 1789 Paul, Cornwall, England
d.10 May 1863 Darling Harbour, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
Parents and Siblings
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m. 29 Sep 1783
  1. Ann Drew Carbis1784 -
  2. William Carbis1789 - 1863
  3. Martha Carbice1792 - 1793
  4. Martha Carbis1794 - 1882
  5. Richard Carbis1797 -
Spouse and Children
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m. 1 Jul 1809
  1. Ann Carbice1810 -
  2. Grace Carbice1810 -
  3. William Carbice1811 -
  4. John Martins Carbis1814 - 1892
Spouse and Children
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m. 20 Aug 1847
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Facts and Events
Name William Carbis
Gender Male
Other[1][18] 1783 Alt. Birth
Christening[1] 5 Apr 1789 Paul, Cornwall, England
Other[2][19] 1799 Alt. Birth
Marriage 1 Jul 1809 Paul, Cornwall, England, United Kingdomto Grace Martins
Other[3][20] Dec 1812 Madron, Cornwall, England, United Kingdomstealing three ewe sheep from a Miss Borlase Court
Other[4][21] 5 Feb 1816 Immigrated
Residence[5][22] From 1819 to 1821 an unknown location as he doesn't appear to be listed in the musters
Census[23] 1822 General Muster
Residence[6][24] 1825 Wilberforce, , New South Wales, Australia
Census[7][25] 1828 Mangrove Creek, Lower Portland Head, , New South Wales, Australia
Other[8][26] 31 Aug 1830 30/661 issued Ticket of Leave
Other[9][27] 1834 in two letters of support in of William's application for an unconditional pardon Mentioned
Other[10][28] 19 Jan 1834 , , New South Wales, AustraliaCircular altering Tickets of Leave Ticket of Leave
Other[11][29] 16 Feb 1834 Hawkesbury River, , New South Wales, AustraliaHis Excellency Major General Richard Bourke Governor in Chief of New South Wales Correspondence sent
Other[12][30] 28 Feb 1834 , , New South Wales, Australiaendorsed to include permission to Trade between the Hawkesbury and Sydney Ticket of Leave
Other[2][31] 10 May 1834 34/35 Ticket of Leave
Other[13][32] 25 Jun 1834 , , New South Wales, Australiadenied Conditional Pardon
Other[14][33] Dec 1837 , , New South Wales, Australiaresponse to application for a conditional pardon Conditional Pardon
Other[15][34] 1 Apr 1839 granted/issued on the Conditional Pardon
Marriage 20 Aug 1847 Church Of England, Gosford, , New South Wales, Australiato Elizabeth Clarke
Death? 10 May 1863 Darling Harbour, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
Burial? 12 May 1863 Camperdown, , New South Wales, Australia
Other[1][35] From 12 May 1863 to 13 May 1863 Sydney, , New South Wales, AustraliaInquest
Probate[16][36] 6 Jun 1863 #5676
Other[17] found in the records Description

There is some confusion in official correspondence and administration papers between William Senior and William the Younger. But it is apparent that the two Williams had left the employment of Mr. Cox after the 1821 Muster and William Corbis (sic) the Younger, Govt. Servant was employed by his father William Senior on his estate in Windsor 1822 Muster AO4684

(Research):WILLIAM CARBIS Jnr & GRACE (nee MARTIN)

According to the newspaper reports in 1812, after the sheep theft the three men escaped to sea (the two Williams being fishermen) and William & Grace had their son John Martin Carbis (my Gt. Gt Grandfather) christened in Nov 1814 at St. Gluvias, Penryn. (You located his birth for me).

We don't know what happened to the mother Grace, or the older children, Ann, Grace and William.

Q.1. Are there any indexes at CFHS that will show if they survived, married or died?

Q.2. Is there any register of seagoing folk? Would his/their name be included on such a register

References
  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010, in Baptism of William Carbice, baptised 5 April 1789, Paul Parish Church Register, Cornwall, England
    Paul Parish Church Baptisms, burials, 1776-1812, 5 April 1789.

    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11597-140471-83?cc=1769414, accessed 24 May 2016

  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 ‘England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010’, in Ticket of Leave Butts 31 March 1827 - 20 Aug 1867 (1). (District: Windsor Ticket no.: 34/351 State Records Microfilm Series A26).
  3. ↑ Personal research data of Jean Stauton. (Unpublished research. Contact detail for Jean Staunton available on request. Initial contact made via the Genelogical Research Directory in 2000.).
  4. ↑ Index to the Colonial Secretary’s papers, 1788-1825. (accessed <http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/colonial_secretary_1788-1825_252.asp> on the 7th April, 2007).
  5. ↑ Personal research data of Jean Stauton. (Unpublished research. Contact detail for Jean Staunton available on request. Initial contact made via the Genelogical Research Directory in 2000.)
    email from Vicki Eldridge of "Twigs & Branches Pty Limited " family history researcher to Jean Staunton dated 31-08- 2001.
  6. ↑ New South Wales, Australia. Convict Musters, 1806-1849. (Australian Joint Copying Project).
  7. ↑ 1828 Census: Householders' returns for New South Wales (Australia). (1828 Census: Householders' returns for New South Wales (Australia), Copyright held by the publishers - Library of Australia History who have printed a full listing of names given in the 1828 Census.)
    Household List: People in the Household of Carbiss, William.
  8. ↑ Ticket of Leave Butts 31 March 1827 - 20 Aug 1867 (2). (Pardon No. 39-2880 CP Date 21.3.1839 Item 4/4481 Reel 774 Page 033).
  9. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    34/205, Letters of support for William Carbis the yonger ap plication for an unconditional pardon.

    Hawkesbury River
    16th Feby 1834
    I certify that William Carbis has regularly attended Muster and Divine Service, that I believe the statements in his Petition are true, and as far as I have had an opportunity of judging/ Carbis residing on the Lower part of the Hawkesbury/ his conduct has been good.
    Police Officer Windsor S. North JP.
    5 April 1834 Supt of Police
    I hereby certify that William Carbis was assigned to me in the year 1816 and remained in my service about five years, and was then permitted to work for himself and his aged father, his conduct during the whole of his being in the Colony has been that of a most sober Honest and Industrious Man.
    Wm. Bawn C M Doyle
    7th April 1834

  10. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    35/8519, Circular altering Tickets of Leave - including tha t of William Carbis junior.
  11. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    34/205, William Carbis the yonger applying for an unconditi onal pardon.

    3/1/205
    4/2247 34/205
    To His Excellency Major General Richard Bourke Governor in Chief of New South Wales
    The humble petition of Wm Carbis the Younger
    That your petitioner arrived in the Colony in the ship Ocean in the year 1816 under sentence of transportation for life.
    That your petitioner soon after his arrival was permitted to employ himself for his own benefit and obtained a living by working a small craft between the Hawkesbury River and Sydney untill the year 1828 when an individual having represented that Petitioner was illegally at large he made application for a ticket of Leave which his Excellency the late Governor immediately granted on receiving a favourable report of Petitioner's conduct and the Circumstances under which he was apparently illegally at large.
    That petitioner humbly begs to represent to your Excellency that he has by perseverance and industry since his arrival in the colony become the proprieter of a small vessel which he has continued to ply between the Hawkesbury and Sydney but at a serious loss in Consequence of his ticket of leave restricting him to the former District and thereby compelling him from time to time either to proceed to Windsor a distance of nearly 80 miles & eighty for the purpose of obtaining a pass from the Bench to enable him to come to Sydney or to send another person in charge of his vessel; and as he has now been nearly eighteen years (18) in the Colony during which period he has maintained and irreproachable character, humbly begs to hope that your Excellency taking into consideration these Circumstances will be graciously pleased to recommend him to His Majesty's Government as not undeserving the indulgence of a Conditional Pardon and your Petitioners as in duty Bound will ever pray.
    Wm Carbis
    Hawkesbury River
    16th Feby 1834

  12. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    No 34/135 : Page 337, William Carbis the yonger given permi ssion to Trade between the Hawkesbury and Sydney.

    3/1/205
    4/2247 34/205
    To His Excellency Major General Richard Bourke Governor in Chief of New South Wales
    The humble petition of Wm Carbis the Younger
    That your petitioner arrived in the Colony in the ship Ocean in the year 1816 under sentence of transportation for life.
    That your petitioner soon after his arrival was permitted to employ himself for his own benefit and obtained a living by working a small craft between the Hawkesbury River and Sydney untill the year 1828 when an individual having represented that Petitioner was illegally at large he made application for a ticket of Leave which his Excellency the late Governor immediately granted on receiving a favourable report of Petitioner's conduct and the Circumstances under which he was apparently illegally at large.
    That petitioner humbly begs to represent to your Excellency that he has by perseverance and industry since his arrival in the colony become the proprieter of a small vessel which he has continued to ply between the Hawkesbury and Sydney but at a serious loss in Consequence of his ticket of leave restricting him to the former District and thereby compelling him from time to time either to proceed to Windsor a distance of nearly 80 miles & eighty for the purpose of obtaining a pass from the Bench to enable him to come to Sydney or to send another person in charge of his vessel; and as he has now been nearly eighteen years (18) in the Colony during which period he has maintained and irreproachable character, humbly begs to hope that your Excellency taking into consideration these Circumstances will be graciously pleased to recommend him to His Majesty's Government as not undeserving the indulgence of a Conditional Pardon and your Petitioners as in duty Bound will ever pray.
    Wm Carbis
    Hawkesbury River
    16th Feby 1834

  13. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    34/369-371, William Carbis the yonger denied conditional pa rdon.

    34/369
    Colonial Secretary's Office
    Sydney 25th June 1834
    In middle of Page 67 List of names including
    None For Conditional Pardons
    34/2216 William Carbis – Ocean 1 Must hold Tickets of Leave
    3760 for six years

    The Archives Office was not able to provide a clear copy of this correspondence, but the relevant part is just readable.

  14. ↑ New South Wales. Colonial Secrestary Correspondance.
    37/926: Page 286, William Carbis the yonger rejection lette r for a conditional pardon.

    3/1/205
    4/2247 34/205
    To His Excellency Major General Richard Bourke Governor in Chief of New South Wales
    The humble petition of Wm Carbis the Younger
    That your petitioner arrived in the Colony in the ship Ocean in the year 1816 under sentence of transportation for life.
    That your petitioner soon after his arrival was permitted to employ himself for his own benefit and obtained a living by working a small craft between the Hawkesbury River and Sydney untill the year 1828 when an individual having represented that Petitioner was illegally at large he made application for a ticket of Leave which his Excellency the late Governor immediately granted on receiving a favourable report of Petitioner's conduct and the Circumstances under which he was apparently illegally at large.
    That petitioner humbly begs to represent to your Excellency that he has by perseverance and industry since his arrival in the colony become the proprieter of a small vessel which he has continued to ply between the Hawkesbury and Sydney but at a serious loss in Consequence of his ticket of leave restricting him to the former District and thereby compelling him from time to time either to proceed to Windsor a distance of nearly 80 miles & eighty for the purpose of obtaining a pass from the Bench to enable him to come to Sydney or to send another person in charge of his vessel; and as he has now been nearly eighteen years (18) in the Colony during which period he has maintained and irreproachable character, humbly begs to hope that your Excellency taking into consideration these Circumstances will be graciously pleased to recommend him to His Majesty's Government as not undeserving the indulgence of a Conditional Pardon and your Petitioners as in duty Bound will ever pray.
    Wm Carbis
    Hawkesbury River
    16th Feby 1834

  15. ↑ Colonial Secreataries correspondance - Conditional pardon. (40/37 4/4438).
  16. ↑ Probate of William Carbis, 6 June 1863. (Supreme Court of NSW 1800-1901 Unit 5676 Series 1 at Mangrove Creek for William Carbus died 10.5.1863).
  17. ↑ William Carbis Junior was 26 years of age, 5' 2 3/4" tall, dark sallow complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes
  18. ↑ based on his death certificate, but thought not to be correct as he was 25 when sent to Australia in 1816, according to this date he would have been born in 1789 not 1783. If he was born in 1783 he would have been sent to Australia when he was 33 years of age. It would also mean that he would have been the first child born after his parents got married and the two older girls would have been born out of wedlock.
  19. ↑ based on his ticket of Leave 34/351.
    This is also an incorrect birthdate. It would have meant that he would have been transported to Australia when he was 17 years old rather than 26.
  20. ↑ William 'Junior', his father William Carbis 'Senior', and brother-in-law Francis Bassett (husband of Ann Drew Carbis) were accused of stealing three ewe sheep from a Miss Borlase in Madron Parish, Cornwall in December 1812 but absconded to sea immediately after to avoid capture. William Carbis Senior and Junior were fishermen, and Francis Bassett a labourer. Captured approx. two years later they were tried in the Bodmin Assizes Cornwall, on 27th March 1815, and being found guilty by the Jury, the Judge sentenced them to death.
  21. ↑ The original sentence was commuted to transportation to Australia for life, and they were taken on the Convict Ship "Ocean" 1816, arriving at Sydney Cove 5th February 1816.
    Father and son's (junior and seniors) names appear on the list of convicts who dissembarked from the ship and were forwarded to Windsor for distribution.
  22. ↑ to be followed up.
    Mention made in an email from Vicki Eldridge of "Twigs & Branches Pty Limited" family history researcher to Jean Staunton as follows - "list of convicts maintained by Mr. Wm Cox in the year 1821. There are similar lists for 1819 & 1820."
    Was William Carbis on this list? It is not clear.
    In 1821 he was not mentioned so we are not sure where he is, Francis Bassett however is still with Mr Cox.
  23. ↑ William Carbis, Convict, Ocean Sentenced for life he was a government servant to his father at Windsor. This pobably means that his father was already a free man and could thererfore own land and/or cultivate land(Marsha to check)
  24. ↑ Living on his father's estate, working as convict labour
  25. ↑ William Carbiss, aged 30 (should be approximately 38 based on the Assizes records, has approximately a conditional Pardon, his occupation was a farmer, Francis Bassett who was aged 50 years (should be 43 based on the Cornwall Assizes), was working for him.
  26. ↑ Written across the bottom of 30/661 "Received No. 34/351 10 May 1834 this (one 30/661) being returned mutilated and cancelled.
  27. ↑ "I certify that William Carbis has regularly attended Muster and Divine Service, that I believe the statements in his Petition are true, and as far as I have had an opportunity of judging/ Carbis residing on the Lower part of the Hawkesbury/ his conduct has been good.
    Police Officer Windsor S. North JP.
    5 April 1834 Supt of Police
    I hereby certify that William Carbis was assigned to me in the year 1816 and remained in my service about five years, and was then permitted to work for himself and his aged father, his conduct during the whole of his being in the Colony has been that of a most sober Honest and Industrious Man.
    Wm. Bawn C M Doyle
    7th April 1834"
  28. ↑ "Colonial Secretarys Office
    19th January 1834
    Sir,
    Circular altering Tickets of Leave The,
    I have the honor to be Principal Supdt Of Convicts
    Signed T.?.?.
    (bottom of Page 1)
    34/351 10 May Wm Carbis the Permission to
    Younger Trade between Ocean 1 the Hawkesbury & Sydney
    The Enclosures of your letter are here & will be returned."
  29. ↑ This letter was to apply for an unconditional pardon

    A transcription of the letter that he sent reads as follows:-
    "To His Excellency Major General Richard Bourke Governor in Chief of New South Wales
    The humble petition of Wm Carbis the Younger
    That your petitioner arrived in the Colony in the ship Ocean in the year 1816 under sentence of transportation for life.
    That your petitioner soon after his arrival was permitted to employ himself for his own benefit and obtained a living by working a small craft between the Hawkesbury River and Sydney untill the year 1828 when an individual having represented that Petitioner was illegally at large he made application for a ticket of Leave which his Excellency the late Governor immediately granted on receiving a favourable report of Petitioner's conduct and the Circumstances under which he was apparently illegally at large.
    That petitioner humbly begs to represent to your Excellency that he has by perseverance and industry since his arrival in the colony become the proprieter of a small vessel which he has continued to ply between the Hawkesbury and Sydney but at a serious loss in Consequence of his ticket of leave restricting him to the former District and thereby compelling him from time to time either to proceed to Windsor a distance of nearly 80 miles & eighty for the purpose of obtaining a pass from the Bench to enable him to come to Sydney or to send another person in charge of his vessel; and as he has now been nearly eighteen years (18) in the Colony during which period he has maintained and irreproachable character, humbly begs to hope that your Excellency taking into consideration these Circumstances will be graciously pleased to recommend him to His Majesty's Government as not undeserving the indulgence of a Conditional Pardon and your Petitioners as in duty Bound will ever pray.
    Wm Carbis
    Hawkesbury River
    16th Feby 1834"
  30. ↑ :"Sydney 28th February 1834
    Sir,
    Petitions from the Undermentioned Individuals having been submitted to the Governor, I have the honour to apprise you of His Excellency's decision on their respective cases for communication to the parties …?
    (List of 5 petitioners)
    Page 338
    (3rd petitioner)
    William Carbis the Younger Ocean. For permission to Trade between the Hawkesbury and Sydney. Allowed his Ticket of Leave to be endorsed accordingly.
    (bottom of Page 339)
    Signed T C Harrington"
  31. ↑ written across this Ticket of Lease "Torn up on the 20 Oct 1841 on the recovery of Con Pardon #40/37 dated 1 Apr 1839. Written at bottom of the same document (34/351) was the following "In lieu of 30/661 31st Aug 1830 returned mutilated and cancelled."
  32. ↑ 34/369
    "Colonial Secretary's Office
    Sydney 25th June 1834
    (In middle of Page 67 List of names including)
    None For Conditional Pardons
    34/2216 William Carbis – Ocean 1 Must hold Tickets of Leave
    3760 for six years"
  33. ↑ Page 286
    37/926 Col: Sec: Office
    Sydney, 4 Dec 1837
    Sir,
    "Petitions with your reports thereon from the undermentioned Prisoners for Conditional Pardons having been submitted to the Governor, I am directed to inform you of the decisions respectively given for the purpose of being communicated to the parties: namely: (list of names following
    Page 287 Line 5
    10.795 William Carbis – Ocean 1
    ....
    The Petitions are not sufficiently recommended by persons having knowledge of the Men's conduct for some time past."
    (Comment at end of this bracket of names)
  34. ↑ given at Government house Sydney on 2nd May 1840 by Sir George Gipps; for good behavour, and part of the Secretaries despatch 33 on the 6 Nov 1839.
  35. ↑ To be followed through with, no copy yet sighted.
  36. ↑ "This day upon Petition administration for all and singular the goods chattels credits and effects of William Carbus deceased was granted to Elizabeth Carbus the widow of the deceased Intestate - Intestate died the 10th day of May 1863 Goods sworn at £100:- Letters of administration dated the same day as granted"

    When William died on the 10 May 1863 he died intestate.
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