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Martha Bliss
d.Bef Oct 1647
Facts and Events
References
- ↑ Hoppin, Charles Arthur. The Bliss book. (Hartford, Connecticut, United States: not identified, 1913)
pages 177-78.
She is not mentioned in her father's will (written Oct 1647).
- ↑ Hoppin, Charles Arthur. The Bliss book. (Hartford, Connecticut, United States: not identified, 1913)
page 157.
'The register of baptisms and burials of the parish church of Holy Cross bears ... these records of the children of the said emigrants, Thomas and Dorothy (Wheatlye) Blisse:-- ...
1622 Nathal. Blisse fil Tho: & Dorothee bapt Dec. 8 [Nathaniel]'
- Hoppin, Charles Arthur. The Bliss book. (Hartford, Connecticut, United States: not identified, 1913)
page 177 .
The will of her father Thomas mentions "my fouer children", but does not mention Nathaniel Bliss by name. (He mentions Nathaniel, son of his son-in-law Nicholas Ide, but not Nathaniel Bliss.)
Previously published abstracts of the will were ambiguous and did not make it clear whose son Nathaniel was. This has led some to believe that the Nathaniel mentioned in the will was Thomas' own son. The Dec 1622 baptism was read as Nathaniel (see citation from the Bliss Book), possibly influenced by a misunderstanding of the will.
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 According to the Bliss Family History Society in England,
Martha was Thomas Bliss's daugter. Here is the article:
Descendants of Thomas Bliss (c1588-1647) of Rehoboth, Mass. will be delighted to hear that a long-standing problem about his relationship with Nicholas Ide has now been resolved.
For many years it was presumed that Thomas’s wife Dorothy (Wheatley) died shortly after arriving in New England and that Thomas remarried a widow Ide who had a son Nicholas. He was mentioned as 'son in law' in Thomas Blisse's will of 1647, but it was assumed that he was in fact Thomas's step son.
In February 1999, while comparing entries in Ty Bliss's Genealogy etc. with our own records, I discovered some discrepancies concerning the children of Thomas and Dorothy. All their known children were baptised at the church of Holy Cross, Daventry, England. It was obvious that there were errors, either in our transcripts of the parish register or the records on which Ty had based his genealogy.
I wrote to Northants Record Office requesting printouts of the doubtful entries in the Holy Cross PR. I also asked the archivist to confirm her interpretation of the entries in case the photocopies were difficult to read.
The photocopies were indeed almost illegible but, with the archivists confirmation of each event, we are satisfied that we now have true records of the family in Daventry. In this issue we only have space to mention the resolution of the major discrepancy.
The child of Thomas & Dorothy Bliss who was baptised Dec ? 1622 was Martha not Nathaniel.
Following the baptism, Nathaniel (no 19) disappears from Ty's genealogy. However, a footnote in Ty's book says Nicholas Ide was married 16th May 1647 at Springfield, Mass. to Martha, whose surname is supposed by some to have been Bliss. It now seems perfectly clear that Martha [Bliss]Ide was the child born to Thomas and Dorothy Bliss at Daventry. Nicholas Ide was therefore truly Thomas Blisse's son in law, as stated in his will.
BUT - see following note for a disagreement with the conclusion.
- Eugene Zubrinsky (a respected genealogist) points out that the supposed marriage between Nicholas Ide and Martha Bliss in 1647 is fictional, and argues that even if Thomas Bliss had a daughter named Martha, it is still far more likely that Nicholas Ide was his step-son than his son-in-law. See messages 1175 and 1176 in Ide Genealogy Family Forum.
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