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m. Abt 1152 - John de Throckmorton1147 - 1205
Facts and Events
From: Baronetage of England
by E. Kimber and R. Johnston
Volume the First, London p.478
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The file of this family is recorded by no antiquary; in a pedigree made by Sir William Dugdale, the first mentioned is John de Throckmorton, who was Lord of the manor of Throckmorton, in the vale of Evesham, about fifty years after the Norman Conquest, 1130; which leaves no room to doubt, but that this family possessed it at the entrance of the Normans, or long before, the etymology of the name being either British, or, as more probable, Saxon.
From this John descended Henry de Throckemerton...
References
- Heritage Consulting. Millennium File.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=morter%2D2012&id=I9301
Heritage Consulting. Millennium File. Provo, UT, USA : The Generations Network, Inc., 2003. Original data: Heritage Consulti ng. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting
Text: Millennium File
about Henry De Throkemerton
Name: Henry De Throkemerton
Spouse:
Birth Date: 1120
Parents: John De Throkemerton
Children: Robert De Throckmorton
- John de Throkemerton - was born before 1130 in England.
http://hartgen.renderplus.com/htm/de-throkemerton.htm
John de Throkemerton - was born before 1130 in England.
John - - Lord of Throckkmorton 1130 Flandenburgh, In The Hundred Of Oswaldeslawe, Worcestershire Note: The manor of Throckmorton (The Rock-Moor-Town) is situated in the Vale of Evesham, in the parish of Fladbury, anciently written Flandenburgh, in the hundred of Oswaldeslawe, Worcestershire.
Children:
i. Henry de Throkemerton
- Throckmorton Family in England.
lord of Throckmorton, 1175-1200.
(Throkemerton is the ancient writing of Throckmorton) The manor of Throckmorton (The Rock-Moor-Town) is situated in the Vale of Evesham, in the parish of Fladbury, anciently written Flandenburgh, in the hundred of Oswaldeslawe, Worcestershire. The land at Tlhrockmorton which is Flandenburgh, in the hundred of Oswaldeslawe, Worcestershire. The land at Throckmorton which is still in possession of the family lies about 1 and 1/2 miles distant from the Parish Church of Fladbury.
He (John) was taxed two marks (26s.8d.) in 1175...mentioned in Liber Albin Episc. Wigorn, page 27 (according to Nash in his Antiquities of Worcestershire), as lord of Throckmorton in 1200. 11 Sir William Dugdale says that "John de Throkemerton was lord of the manor of Throckmorton A.D. 1130, which leaves little room for doubt that the family possessed it at the entrance of the Normans...
Issue: Henry
- Frances Grimes Sitherwood,,. Throckmorton family history.
Frances Grimes Sitherwood,,. Throckmorton family history : being the record of the Throckmortons in the United States of America with cognate branches, emigrant ancestors located at Salem, Massachusetts, 1630, and in Gloucester County, Virginia, 1660. Bloomington, Ill.: Pantagraph Printing & Stationary Co., 1929.
Source: Sitherwood pg 16
John de Throckmerton, according to Sir William Dugdale, was lord of the manor of Throckmorton, in the Vale of Evesham, about 60 years after the Norman Conquest, 1130; which leaves no room to doubt but what this family possessed it at the entrance of the Normans (1060), or long before, the etymolegy of the name being either British, or Saxon. From this John descended.
(Henricus filius Johannis de Trochemerton acknowledged the grant by Bishop Mangus (1199-1212) of half a hyde claimed by him in Fladbury. This was a deed.
- Throckmorton History...of Southern Ohio...
Source: Throckmorton History...of Southern Ohio...
A manor in the vale of Eversham - Parish of Fladbury. Descendants of the Marmion family of Kenward, who was Domesday - sub-tenant of Throckmorton (Adam, John and Joscelin). John de Throckmorton (Lord of Throckmorton) 1175-1200 - Henry - Robert - Adam - Robert 1275 - Simon - Robert- Giles - Robert - Thomas - John - Thomas - John - Simon - Sir Lyonel - Bassingbourne ( a grocer born Norwich 1564. An Alderman, married Mary Hill and died in 1638 - parents of "our" John who came to America in 1630.
- Domesday Book pg.339.
John De Throckmorton's wife, Joscelin may have been related to the Joscelin FirzAzors mentioned mentioned in the Domesday book. This Joselin was one of the 200 large landholders of England at the time William I of France invaded England. She had large holdings in IOW.
Jocelyn le Breton Holdings in Beds., Bucks., Glos. Maybe an ancestor of our Joscelin (no proof).
- Antiquities of Worcestershire.
Ref: CWT-17ff ("John de Throkemerton, lord of Throkemerton, 1175-1200. He was taxed two marks (26s. 8d.)in 1175 (Pipe Rolls, 22 Henry II, Roll 3, m.I. In the same Pipe Roll Joscelin de throkemerton was taxed 40 shillings and Adam de Throkemerton appears in Pipe Roll of the preceding year.) He was mentioned in
Liber Albin Episc. Wigon, page 27 (according to Nash, in his Antiquities ofWorcestershire), as lord of Throkemerton in 1200." Sons: Henry, Robert, Adam.(Ibid) vmorgan-a (father, app date of birth, son Henry)
- Historical Account of the Throckmorton, Author: C. Wickliffe Throckmorton.
Genealogical and Historical Account of the Throckmorton
Author: C. Wickliffe Throckmorton
Title: Reference Text: Genealogical and Historical Account of the Throckmorton and Allied Familes,
Publication: Name: Old Dominion Press, Richmond, Virginia, 1930;
Page 76 Title: Reference Text: Pipe Rolls, 22 Henry II, Roll 3, m.I.
page 17 and 18
The first John de Throckmorton, Lord of Thorkemorton 1175-1200 He was taxed two marks (26s-8d) in 1175, (Pips Roles 22 HenryII Roll 3, m I) He mention in Libder Albin Episc. Wigorn, page 27 (according to Nash, in his Antiquites of Worcestershire as Lord of Throkemerton in 1200
- Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval.
Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: Robert O'Connor, 12 Dec 1998
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I23542
- Http://www.british-history.ac.uk.
Title: VCH - Worcestershire:. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk
Page: III352-64, see notes for Thomas Throckmorton, b. c1350
- Http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/y/e/Ron-C-Myers/GENE30-0284.html.
"In 1416, June 16, the Bishop of Worcester obtained a license to grant 14 messages and 2 carucates(+) of land in Throckmorton, parcel of the Manor of Fladbury, to Sir John de Throckmorton, to be held of the bishop at a fee farm rent. This was probably the estate which the bishop held in demesne in the twelfth century." (Victoria History of Worcestershire, vol. III. page 356.) On this grant Leland statement, often quoted, was based.
It will be seen on perusal of the text that the Throckmortons were the principal owners of land in Throckmorton from 1175, and possibly long before. Robert de Throkemerton, in 7 Edw. III (1335), in a charter at Coughton, is spoken of as Lord of Throckmorton.
There is no definite or documentary evidence as to the descent of John de Throkemerton of 1175, unless one accepts the following taken from the Feudal Aids of Worcestershire, 20 Edw. III:
".... Johannes Hyband tenit unam hidam in Throkemorton quam Henricus filius Johannis. Adam filius Roberti?? Willieli??us filius Jocelin et Edwardus filius Gernassi quondam tennerunt."
As tracing the title of the property back to the time of Domesday, we know from contemporary documents that Henry de Throkemerton was the son of John de Throkemerton, who was taxed two marks in 1175, and that Adam was the son of Robert, who was the son of Henry: but we must assume that William was the son of Joscelin, who was the son of Edwardus, who was the son of Gervase who held land in 1086 in Throckmorton.
"The bishop, who at this time held a manor in Throckmorton, in demesne, had other tenants at Throckmorton. Norman held half a hide of land and Osmund the Chamberlain half a hide.?? In a later survey the heir of Osmund, the Chamberlain, was holding at Throckmorton a hide and a half of land, which Osmund, son of Gervase, held of him. Bishop John about 1151 confirmed this tenement to Osmund for the service Malgetus did for it."
- Habington's Survey of Worcestershire (Worc. Hist. Soc.). vol. ??. p. 226,.
John, Joscelin (Rocelin?) and Adam de Throckmorton, all of whose names appear in the Pipe Roll of 1175; Osmund and Gervase and the heir of Osmund, the chamberlain, were mentioned as tenants of the bishop of Worcester by Habington in his Survey of Worcestershire, as quoted above, and a Maihelus de Tormorton witnessed on November 25, 1183,
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