Person:Johannes Ottenbacher (1)

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Name[1][2][3][4][5] Johannes Ottenbacher
Alt Name Chespoores Johannes? _____
Alt Name[6][7] Chespoores John? _____
Gender Male
Other[2][15] 3 Mar 1813 22 Mar 1813 Alt. Birth
Birth[1][2][3][4][5] 22 Mar 1813 Allmersbach, Bachnang, Wuerttemberg, Germany
Marriage Bef 1841 to Katherine Zurn
Marriage Aft 1847 to Rosine "Magdalena" Conrad
Other[11][16] 31 Dec 1852 Hoffnungstal, , , RussiaHoffnungstal, Odessa document - 1852 Misc
Death[1][3][8][5] 13 Feb 1870 Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish, Odessa (Kherson), Russia
Other[6][7][12] Chespoores John b. (1815?); wife, Katharina Zirn, died (1850?) Date Conflict
Other[13] Dates are close but vary by about 2 years between sources for the two couples Date Conflict
Other? Johannes b. Mar 1813; wife, Katherine Zurn, died 28 Oct 1848 Date Conflict
Other[13] Johannes may be the same person as Chespoores John Ottenbacher Identity
Other[9][14] Hoffnungstal, Odessa document - 1859 Misc
Other? Ottenbachers originated from Allmersbach/Backnang/Wue/Germany Origins
Other[10][6] The Swiss line of Bauders are from Mett (Biel), Switzerland. Source

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References
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Harold Ehrman. "Ottenbacher Descendants," database, Harold Ehrman, \i Harold Ehrman's Webpage ~ www.ehrman.net\i0  . ((http://www.ehrman.net/hoffnung/hoffnungfam/ottenbac/ottenbac.html : Descendant report created by Gene 4.3.4, Sun, Mar 19, 2006))
    ), #1. 11.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Elmer S. Junker. The Ottenbacher Genealogy. (N.p.: n.p., 1980.)
    page 3.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints [LDS]. "International Genealogical Index." Database.. (\i FamilySearch\i0 . http://www.familysearch.org)
    (http://www.familysearch.org), Family Group Region.
  4. 4.0 4.1 LDS. "Pedigree Resource File," database, \i Individual Record\i0  . ((http://www.familysearch.org))
    ).
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 WorldConnect Program. "Walth, Guthmiller, Hieb Families of Hosmer, SD," database, The Generations Network (formerly, MyFamily.com, I (1). ((http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com : Copyright © 1998-2009, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries~owned and operated by The Generations Network.))
    ).
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints [LDS]. "International Genealogical Index." Database.. (\i FamilySearch\i0 . http://www.familysearch.org)
    (http://www.familysearch.org), Continental Europe Region, entry for Chespoores John Ottenbacher and Katharina Zirn.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Luella Bauder. Are You Really a Bauder The Story, History, and Genealogy of Many Bauders. Odessa Digital Library. ~ Online Ge. (http://www.odessa3.org/collections/families/link/bauder.txt: Published by the Odessa Digital Library - 27 Jun 1999 (Copyright 1979, 1999 Milo Bauder))
    Part III, Chapter 10, page 65 (No. 23).
  8. LDS. "Pedigree Resource File," database, \i Individual Record\i0  . ((http://www.familysearch.org))
    ), Submitter: Edwin OTTENBACHER.
  9. Harold Ehrman. "Harold Ehrmans's Web Page," database. ((http://www.ehrman.net/))
    ), Hoffnungstal, Odessa - 1859; Hoffnungstal Documents.
  10. Luella Bauder. Are You Really a Bauder The Story, History, and Genealogy of Many Bauders. Odessa Digital Library. ~ Online Ge. (http://www.odessa3.org/collections/families/link/bauder.txt: Published by the Odessa Digital Library - 27 Jun 1999 (Copyright 1979, 1999 Milo Bauder))
    End of Part I, Chapter 6.
  11. Harold Ehrman. "Harold Ehrmans's Web Page," database. ((http://www.ehrman.net/))
    ), Hoffnungstal, Odessa - 1852; Hoffnungstal Documents.
  12. This family was in Switzerland before Hoffnungstal. His wife died in Switzerland of a cholera epidemic. He escaped at night from the quarantined city with 3 children and went back to Allmersbach, Germany. He gave his daughter to his brother, George, to raise. (Chespoores John was too close in age to Johannes to be a son of Johannes, as I had originally placed him. They are more likely to be the same person).
  13. 13.0 13.1 (Chespoores John was too close in age to Johannes to be a son of Johannes, as I had originally placed him. They are more likely to be the same person).
  14. Johannes Ottenbacher, Hoffnungsthal Colony
    Age: 45
    Absent since: 1849
    Residence: unbekannt [unknown]
    What kind of pass: Ohne Pass [without pass]
    Occupation: Baecker [baker]
    Relatives in the colony: Frau und Kinder [wife and children]
    To which family is he listed, and the revision number:
    zbie seinen Bruder ab? N.82 [with his brother ocassionally? N.82]
    Does he promptly pay his taxes and other fees: restiert
    If he is permanently settled outside the colony, did he have permission
    of the community and the local authorities to leave the colony:
    ohne Erlaubniss [without pass]
    Miscellaneous Comments: um Ausweisung in seinen An-siedlungsort vorgestellt
    Google Translation: deportation order in its early settlement site presented.
  15. on the same page in the Junker Genealogy.
  16. Johannes Ottenbacher, Hoffnungsthal Colony
    Age: 38
    Since when absent: 1849
    Where he lives: Odessa
    What kind of pass: Ohne Pass [Without Pass]
    Occupation: als Backergesell? [as baker company?]
    Relatives in the colony: Frau u: Kinder [wife & children]

    To which family is he listed, and the revision number:
    zu seinen Bruder Georg Ottenbacher (Refissions N:94)
    [to his brother, Georg Ottenbacher (Revision N:94)

    Does he promptly pay his taxes and other fees: seit 2 Jahren noch schuld
    [since 2 years noch debt].

    If he is permanently settled outside the colony, did he have permission
    of the community and the local authorities to leave the colony: ohne Erlaubniss
    [without permission].

    Miscellaneous Comments: Ist ein Verschwenden, verflossen?
    ins? Spaethjahrs hat ihn der
    Schulz in Odessa arrestieren
    lassen, und ihn un?? Woche?
    hinher tranportiert, nach
    Ablauf eines Monets, ist er
    wieder families entwichen.

    Google Translation: [Is a waste, passed?
    ins? Spaeth year, it has the
    Schulz Odessa Arresti
    , and let him un? Week?
    Hinh tranportiert, after
    Expiration of a Monet, it is
    families escaped again.]