Person:Herbert Krumm (2)

Lieutenant Herbert Zettler Krumm
m. 1877
  1. Lieutenant Herbert Zettler Krumm1878 - 1905
  2. Benjamin Zettler Krumm1880 - 1912
  3. Thomas Zettler Krumm1881 - 1968
  4. Grace Helen Krumm1883 - 1902
  5. Nettie Belle Krumm1885 - 1971
  6. John Jacob Krumm1886 - 1887
  7. Alexander Washington Krumm, Jr1888 - 1964
  8. Samuel Zettler Krumm1890 - 1966
  9. James Zettler Krumm1891 - 1953
  10. Edna Mary Krumm1893 - Abt 1954
Facts and Events
Name[1][2] Lieutenant Herbert Zettler Krumm
Alt Name[3] Herbert J Krumm
Gender Male
Birth[4] 15 Mar 1878 Columbus, Franklin, Ohio, United States
Graduation[2] 1894 Central High school, Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio
Graduation[2] 1898 Ohio State University, Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio
Other[9][18] 12 Jul 1898 Milit-End
Residence[10] Bet 1900 and 1902 975 South High Street, Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio
Graduation[11][19] 1902
Death[5][2][15] 20 Apr 1905 Washington, District of Columbia, United States
Other[12][20] 21 Apr 1905 Columbus, Franklin, Ohio, United StatesObitz_OK
Other[13][21] 21 Apr 1905 Newark, Licking, Ohio, United StatesObitz2_OK
Burial[6][7][16] 24 Apr 1905 Columbus, Franklin, Ohio, United StatesGreen Lawn Cemetery
Other[14][22] 25 Apr 1905 Columbus, Franklin, Ohio, United StatesObitz_OK
Other[8][17] News
Reference Number? 16270
Reference Number? 768

Note from Kris: I sent Dale a genealogy report showing him all that I had on this family from Herbert's father forward and informed him that my husband is only a second half cousin twice removed. To which he responded: "Thank you for your prompt reply to my note. West Point alumni records show that Herbert Zettler Krumm died on 20 Apr 1905, per your records, but their records show his death in Washington, DC, his death occurring during surgery. Yes, it would be sad not to have a representative of Herbert to represent him at this event next May. However, since your husband is related, albeit distantly, there is no reason that he should not be represented! I would love to get your husband's home or work address so that I might add him, and you and your family, to a mailing list for invitations to this event next year, May 5-6, 2002. I would also then send you a brief history of this event and last year's schedule-this is a wonderful event that you and your family would very much enjoy-even though the relationship is not close, that fact would not impinge upon your enjoyment of this event. If you, by chance, haven't ever visited West Point, such a visit in itself is an exciting, patriotic event. I look forward to hearing from you again. Dale

Note from Kris: I sent him our address, and hope to find some living relatives to forward the information to.

letter I received: "I found your name and e-mail address through a search for Herbert Zettler Krumm, a 1902 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY. On May 5-6, 2002, West Point holds a centennial celebration honoring the West Point Class of 1902. Descendants, direct or collateral, of the 54 graduates of this class are invited to this event. I am hoping that you are related to Herbert Zettler Krumm, directly or collaterally, and hence I would be pleased to send you further information concerning this event. I look forward to hearing from you. Dale W. Hansen USMA 1968 email:"

  1. Directory
    the 1900-01 Columbus city directory page 480 lists: Krumm, Herbert Z.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Obituary. (further information available upon request).
  3. Marguerite Bauer. Bauer - Connel family information, Recipient: Kristina Kuhn Krumm,Address: Wadsworth, Ohio, Author E-mail: mbauer at (2001).
  4. United States. 1900 U.S. Census Population Schedule. (National Archives Microfilm Publication T623).
  5. Military records
    information from West Point.
  6. Tombstone, Record Type: Photograph of tombstone, Subject: grave marker.
  7. Green Lawn Cemetery interment cards, ca. 1820-1981, Roll: 20 microfilmreels, copies of interment cards. (General Microfilm Corporation, under contract with the Franklin CountyGenealogical Society, Columbus, Ohio, November, 1981).
  8. Julie Krumm Reeder. Home visit with Julie Krumm Reeder, Interviewer: Kristina Kuhn Krumm,Informant Address: Columbus, Ohio. (Aug 27, 2003)
    newspaper clipping source unknown.
  9. Ohio Soldiers in the War with Spain, 1898-99, Url:
  10. Directory
    Columbus city directory page 480.
  11. Military records.
  12. The Ohio State Journal, Location: Columbus, Ohio
    page one and two.
  13. Newark Daily Advocate: newspaper, Location: Newark, Ohio
    page 5.
  14. The Ohio State Journal, Location: Columbus, Ohio.
  15. from anestetic just before surgery on a dislocated shoulder
  16. lot 189 sec 35 in Alexander Krumm lot (no cause of death given)
  17. "HERBERT ZETTLER KRUMM- Twelve Districts Representative at West Point-First in 33 Years to Pass Examination from Ranks of Army - Honor to BeProud of - The representative of the capital district at West Pointmilitary Academy at present is a remarkable young man in many respects.He is Mr. Herbert Zettler Krumm, the son of Mr. Alex Krumm, awell-known member of Columbus' bar. Young Mr. Krom is but 20 years ofage, but those years, especially the last three or four, have been evendental ones. Like most employees in the city he passes through thedifferent grades of the public schools and then enter the Ohio StateUniversity, graduating with the class of 1898. One of his notableexploits was a wheeled trip through the western states. He paddled 5000miles in all and went as far as Salt Lake City. He applied foradmission to West Point, some six months ago, but when the war withSpain was declared key at once enlisted in Battery H. First Ohio Lightare Telerate, and went to the front. He was called to Columbus for thepreliminary examinations and was appointed an alternate by CongressmanLentz. The young artillery man returned again to his battery in theSouth and remained there until he was summoned to West Point to take theexamination. The young man who was appointed to the place failed and hepassed. The army regulations provide that in time of war officers andmen on duty must wear their uniforms even if they are off on FurloughThe fact that young Mr. Krumm went to the academy to be examined in hisuniform occasioned some comments and the great New York dailies had muchto say about him, making the assertion that in 33 years he was the firstto pass examinations from the ranks of the army."
  18. First Battalion Ohio Volunteer Light Artillery Battery H - ColumbusPrivate - Discharged Columbus; Age: 20; Remarks: Discharged per S. O.162, A. G. O., July 12, 1898, by order of Sec. of War.; page: 886
  19. West Point
  20. "Well-known Columbus boy was about to submit to surgical operation whenanesthetic killed him - Lieutenant Herbert Z. Krumm, USA Cavalryservice, died Thursday about noon in the government hospital atWashington DC. The news of this came like a clap of thunder from a clearsky, even to his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Alexander Krumm of 975 South HighStreet. Only a couple weeks ago, Sunday, April 8, he stopped off inColumbus on his way east from his station, Fort Clark, Texas, andvisited his parents for a few hours. He was then en route to Washingtonfor treatment. He was feeling well and had been in command of hiscompany just prior to leaving... The trouble, not considered veryserious, for which Krumm was going east, dates back to his junior yearat West Point. While taking some of the usual physical exercise is thedislocated his shoulder. The injured member was replaced and thetrouble did not interfere with his completion of his college career, hisservice and the Philippines or on the planes, but it never thoroughlyamended and the arm had often to be reset. This surgeon at his post inTexas sad that he believed the ligaments had been torn and advised asurgical operation. To have this time he went to Washington...Thursdaymorning he was to have submitted to the knife, but while being put underthe influence of either preparatory to the operation, the hard suddenlybecame irregular and he died in a few minutes. Neither family norfriends here were aware that he had a weak heart, his physicalexaminations having been of the best. Lieut. Krumm, the eldest of sixchildren, was born May 15, 1878, and received his early education in thepublic schools of Columbus, graduating from the Central high school in1894. The following year he entered the Ohio State University, taking afull course at that Institute of learning and graduated in the year1898. At the breaking out of the Spanish-American war, he enlisted withbattery H, first artillery, OVI. His service with his company at thistime served to heighten his ambition to become an army officer. He hadonce began in earnest preparations for the examination which shouldadmit him to the military school at West Point. In the year 1898 heentered West Point, in full uniform, being the first student to enterthe Academy in Army uniform during a period of 30 years. After taking afull course, during which time he always ranked with the leaders, hegraduated in 1902... Lieutenant Krumms first assignment was in thePhilippines, where he remained about a year. During his stay at thispoint, he suffered a severe siege of muscular rheumatism, which, it isbelieved, caused a weakness of his heart. Returning to America torecuperate and to regain his former strength and health soon thereafter.Lieut. Krumm's next assignment was at Fort Clark, Texas, at which pointhe was stationed at the time of his death... A dispatch to the statejournal from its Washington correspondent says: Herbert Z. Krumm, ofOhio, 2nd Lieutenant in the first Regiment of cavalry, died under theanesthetic at 11 o'clock today just as he was about to be operated uponfor recurring dislocation of the shoulder. For several years he hadbeen troubled with this disease and decided to submit to the knife tocure it today, but before he had gotten fully under the influence of theanesthetic his heart ceased to beat. Major William C. Borden, surgeonat the Army hospital, Washington barracks, who was in charge of thecase, with four assistants, worked for an hour and a half in an effortto resusitate Lieut. Krumm, but were unable to do so."
  21. "Lieutenant Krumm-- Columbus, O. April 21--Lieutenant Herbert Z. Krumm,United States calvalry, is dead atht e government hospital atWashington. He was about to undergo and operation for a dislocatedshoulder when the anaesthetic killed him. Krumm's parents reside in thiscity."
  22. "KRUMM'S COFFIN DRAPED WITH FLAG -Impressive Honors Accorded the Body ofLate Lieutenant on Journey to Grave - The body of Herbert W. Krumm, 2ndLieut., 1st cavalry, was laid to rest in Green lawn Cemetery yesterdayafternoon with military honors, two companies of infantry from theColumbus Barrick's attending. Co. C. of the eight infantry, 2nd Lieut.A. B. Van Worner commanding, acted as an escort and furnished the sixcoffin bearers, while Co. D., Capt. Gerhardt, marched with theprocession. All of the officers of the post attended the services andmarched with the troopers to the Cemetery. At the grave a partingsalute was fired and Bugler Christopher Falker sounded taps. That casketwas borne from the residence to the cemetery on a caisson, being woundabout with a flag and the caisson draped in black. Behind the caisson atrooper led a black draped horse. The pallbearers were all Armyofficers, 1st Lieut. Kurtz Eppley, 10 infantry; first Lieut. Joseph C.Brady, 4th infantry; 1st Lieut. Benjamin H. Pope, 8 infantry; 1st Lieut.LaVergne L. Gregg, 27 infantry; 1st Lieut. William E Gillmore, 28infantry, and 1st Lieut. Wm. E. Parsons, 11 infantry. Reverend JacobAstor had charge of the services at the residence and spoke briefly atthe grave."