Person:Dessie Warner (1)

Kentucky death record:Place-FAYETTE Residence-FAYETTE Volume-001 Cert-00411 Deathvol-64

Pat Boyd, 279 Vine Street, San Carlos, California, 94070

Subject: RE: Belle Warner, daughter of Jacob C. Warner of Bath County, Kentucky Date:Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:47:45 -0700 From:Pat Boyd <Pat.Boyd@@crossworlds.com> To: 'Darrell Warner" <dw@@qni.com>

Hi Darrell,

               Sorry it's taken me so long to respond. Went on vacation, was in training, and have just been busy.
    Anyway, I was the one who sent you the question on Belle Warner. I thought

that perhaps I could resolve the question by sending off for the death certificate of a Frank Rayburn in the KY vital statistics database, who I guessed was the son of Sterling Price Rayburn and Belle. This son is listed with Price Rayborn and Belle in 1900. However, the death certificate was inconclusive, as they often are. It showed Frank as the son of Sterling Rayburn and Dessie Stull. Now what happens in the census info is that Frank is listed with Price and Belle in 1900, but listed with James and Dessie Stull in 1910 as a stepson. He also appears to have a sister Martha who would have been born in 1902, and Martha is also living with James and Dessie Stull in 1910. These Stull's are over in Fayette County. So I think the death certificate is the right Frank Rayburn, with a strange entry for his mother. So, did Sterling and Belle die so the kids get passed off to the Stull's? Interesting side note to the question of why the Stull's and who are they? Someone sent me an e-mail asking if I knew about an early Jane Rayburn who marries a Stull in Montgomery County. I didn't but maybe the Stull's and Rayburn's are related, and second or third cousins take in the kids. If Belle didn't die but remarried, did she abandon her kids? Maybe she takes them back in later censuses. I need to look for these people in 1920. So many interesting questions, so little time :-)

Pat

Subject:RE: Belle Warner, daughter of Jacob C. Warner of Bath County, Kentucky Date:Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:54:39 -0800 From:Pat Boyd <Pat.Boyd@@crossworlds.com> To: "'Darrell Warner" <dw@@qni.com>

Darrell,

          I got the death certificate for Dessie Warner Stull. It shows her father to

be Jacob C. Warner and her mother to be Elizabeth Schutz. Her birth date is said to be June 25, 1883 in Bath County KY. She dies Jan 1 1964 a widow. Belle must have been a nickname, as you thought. However, this doesn't answer the question of who Mrs. Belle Staton is, in your e-mail below. The last name on the death certificate is Stull. Seems like she is the daughter of Jacob Warner who marries Sterling Price Rayburn.

Cheers, pat

Subject: RE: Belle Warner, daughter of Jacob C. Warner of Bath County, Kentucky Date:Thur, 19 Nov 1998 09:58:50 -0800 From: Pat Boyd <Pat.Boyd@@crossworlds.com> To: "'Darrell Warner" <dw@@qni.com>

Darrell,

          I'll send you a copy of Dessie's death certificate this weekend. I have some info on Price and their marriage that I'll include, although I don't know when Price dies.  I believe there is a death certificate for James Stull, but I haven't got that one yet, so I don't have info on James right now. I've noticed that there are lots of Stull's in Bath county around Kendall Springs where the Rayburn's lived, and James might be connected to them somehow.  Price's name is Sterling Price Rayburn. I've been curious about that name, and recently I was surfing the cable channels, and I surfed into the History channel and heard a bit on a Confederate general named Sterling Price. Price's father William spent 4 years in the confederacy, and I think he named his son after this general. Funny way to find out genealogical information :-)

Cheers, pat

KENTUCKY DEATH CERTIFICATE File number: 116 64-411 Registrar's No.: 14 Registration district: 500 Primary registration district no.: 2165 1. Place of death

 a. county: Fayette
 b. city or town: Lexington
 c. length of stay in this place: nothing listed
 d. full name of hospital or institution (if not in hospital or institution give street address or location: 602 North Broadway

2. Usual residence

 a. state: Kentucky
 b. county: Fayette
 c. city or town: Lexington  is residence on a farm: no
 d. street address: 660 Elm Tree Lane

3. Name of deceased

 a. first: Dessie
 b. middle: Warner (this is her maiden name)
 c. last: Stull

4. Date of death: January 1, 1964 5. Sex: female 6. Color or race: white 7. Married, never married widowed or divorced: widowed 8. Date of Birth: June 25, 1883 9. Age in years: 80 10a. Usual occupation (give kind of work done during most of working life, even if retired): at home 10b. Kind of business or industry: nothing listed 11. Birthplace: Bath County, Kentucky 12. Citizen of what country: USA 13. Father's name: Jacob C. Warner 14. Mothers maiden name: Elizabeth Shultz 15. was deceased ever in the U.S. Armed Forces: no 16. Social security number: nothing listed 17. Informant: Mrs. Margaret E. Bailey 18. Cause of death

 a. immediate cause: cerebral vascular accident (stroke)
 b. due to: arteriosclerosis, cerebral (best guess)
 c. due to: nothing listed

19. Was autopsy performed: no 20. Accident, suicide, homicide: nothing listed 21a. Describe how accident occurred: nothing listed 21b. Time of injury: nothing listed 21c. Injury occurred while at work/ while not at work: nothing listed 21d. Place of injury: nothing listed 22. I hearby certify that I attended the deceased from 8-29-1962 to 1-1-1964, that I last saw the deceased alive on 1-1-1964 and that death occurred at 9:36 AM from the causes stated above. 23a. Date signed 1-7-1964 23b. Address: Lexington, Kentucky 23c. Signed: Claud M. Bays MD 24a. Burial, cremation, removal: burial 24b. Date: 1-3-1964 24c. Name of cemetery or crematory: Hillcrest Cemetery 24d. Location: Lexington, Kentucky 25a. Date received by local registrar: 1-8-1964 25b. Registrar's signature: Florence Crough 26. Funeral Director: Kerr Brothers of Lexington, Kentucky

From: Joanne Soehner To: darrellwarner@@kc.rr.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:54 PM Subject: Jacob Warner

Darrell,

         The Jacob Warner that I'm looking for is Jacob Clay Warner who married

Elizabeth Shutz or Shultz. They had a daughter (my Gr Grandmother) who is listed as Dessie Belle Warner also known as Bessie and a bible note said the name Matilda could be on her birth certificate. She was born on 6/25/1881 or 1883 depending on which bible I read.

 I'm pretty green at this search and am looking for someone to point

me in the right direction.

 Bible note says they were from Bath County, KY and Dessie Warner married Sterling Rayburn on 6/25/1897 and after his death she married James Stull born 10/31/1872.

Thanks for your help. Jo

From: Darrell Warner To: Joanne Soehner Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Jacob Warner

Hi Jo,

       You have found the right direction by contacting me.  You hit the jack pot!!!!! I have been researching this line of Warner's for many years and have much information.  I will list some at the bottom of this.

I have our family tree and much more more posted at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~warner/surnames.htm At that site you will find a copy of our gggg-grandfather Jacob Warner who died in 1860 inventory of his estate, sale bill of his estate and a copy of his land and slave division to his children. There are pictures of Warner Graveyard and a picture of Jacob Clay Warner's gravestone and a lot more. I also keep all my notes and sources posted there.

I also have a copy of Dessie's death certificate posted at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~warner/dessie.jpg

Dessie was the youngest of 13 children. I descend from her brother Andrew who is my g-grandfather. Jacob C. would be our gg-grandfather. I am always so happy to meet a new cousin. Do you live in Kentucky?

Now I would like ask a favor. Can you bring your side of the tree up to date so I can get your branch added to the tree. I would also like to have photo copies of the infomation in the bible's that you have to add into our family history file along with anything else you may have and would wish to share. My address is Darrell Warner 208 Almond Street Weston, Missouri 64079

With your bible records it sounds like you cleared up what the Jacob's middle initial C. stood for. It was thought that it was Clayton after his grandmothers maiden name. It appears it must be Clay according to what you have. This is really neat and very exciting to me.

Please write back, Darrell

From: Joanne Soehner To: Darrell Warner Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Warner Research

Darrell, It will take me a few days to get it all together but I have Dessie's obit here in front of me and I probably have her daughter's (my grandmother). Dessie Stull is buried in plot 2-412A in Hillcrest Memorial Park Lexington. She died in a nursing home but had lived at 660 Elm Tree Lane, Lexington, Ky., with her daughter, my Grandmother, Margaret Eleanor Rayburn Bailey also listed Martha Ellen.

Margaret was born 9/19/1901 and died 11/29/1976 in Lexington of heart failure. Margaret was married to Wm Robt Rowe 3/28/1916 in Lexington then divorced... don't know the year. They had two children, my mother Margaret Warner Rowe and Leighton Browne Rowe. Leighton changed his last name to Bailey. After the divorce Margaret Eleanor Rowe (Rayburn) married Arnold Alton Bailey in Newport Ky on 9/30/1931.

My mother Margaret Warner Rowe was born 6/25/1919 died 7/09/1999 in Dayton, OH. Was married to John C Burnette of Lex. on 5/31/1940 in Danville, KY. I am Joanne Geary Burnette born in St. Joseph's hospital Lex. on 10/15/1941. Mom divorced my father and married William Kay Wagner of Lexington and had seven more children.

Leighton Browne Rowe/Bailey was born 2/05/1921 and is deceased. He was married to Geneva Ellen..don't know if Ellen is last or middle name. They had five or six children..I can call my cousin for more info.

I have marriage certificate for Margaret and John Burnette, Obit for Frank L. Rayburn, an obit for Dr. Bays..on Dessie's death certificate, an obit for Arnold Bailey, and more I just have to dig out and get organized. Also I have Dessie's and her daughter Margaret Bailey's bibles. Dessie's is missing a page I'm sure and it doesn't always compare to the other. I also have copy of a funeral home? schedule for John Warner 1874-1950 w/services at the Warner Graveyard at 2:00 Wed 4/26/1950.

My family moved to Dayton OH when I was five, I am currently living south of Dayton in the Waynesville area.

It's great to meet a cousin and will try to get you more info...sure do appreciate all your hard work.

Do you want sibling info and info of my four younguns? Joanne Soehner 3340 Middle Run Road Waynesville, OH 45068

From: Darrell Warner To: Joanne Soehner Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: Re: Warner Research

Hi Jo,

       Thanks for responding so quickly.  Yes I would love to have the information on your children.  Try to be as complete as possible to includes all dates , places of birth to include cities, counties and states.  If possible the same information on marraige and death dates also.  It doesn't seem inportant now but 300 years from now it will be to someone doing family tree research as we are.  Eventually I will submit our family tree to the Kentucky State Historical Society and the Bath County Library, Genealogy Section so there will be a permanet record on file.  All my notes and research will eventually end up at the Bath County Library.  I do not post any dates of the living on the internet, but I do keep them on file in the family tree.  Right now I have a binder that is about 6 inches thick with copies of all the information I have.

Do you have any old photo's of Dessie or her father? I have a copy of her brother's Andrew posted at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~warner/andywarn.tif He died on his birthday at age 96 in 1956. If you have any photo's of Dessie I would love to get a copy and I am willing to pay for it.

I think any information is important no matter how trivial or small it is.

Thanks again, Darrell

Obituary of Dessie Warner Stull Mrs. Dessie Warner Stull, 80, the widow of James Stull, died at 9:30 a.m. yesterday at a local nursing home after a long illness. She made her home with a daughter, Mrs. Margaret E. Bailey, 660 Elm Tree Lane. Mrs. Stull was a Bath County native and a daughter of the late Jacob C. and Elizabeth Shultz Warner. She was a member of St. Peter Catholic Church and the Guild of St. Paul and was an auxiliary member of the Legion of Mary. In addition to her daughter, survivors are a son, Frank L. Rayburn, Lexington; 13 grandchildren, several great-grandchildren and several great-great-grandchildren. Services will be conducted at 9 a.m. Friday at St. peter Church by the Rt. Rev. Leo F. Wilson. Burial will be in Hillcrest Memorial Park. Bearers will be George Keller, Leslie Stull, Robert Vaughn, J. C. Todd, Peter Wagner and Kenneth Clark. The body is at Kerr Brothers Funeral Home, where friends may call after noon today. Members of the Guild of St. Paul will recite the Rosary at 9 p.m. today at the funeral home.

1. ↑ Local vital records from newspapers of Bath County, Kentucky 1884 to 1910 by Eric C. Nagle..
2. ↑ ^2.0 2.1 Research done by and information looked up by Darrell Warner. Obituary of father, Jacob C. Warner..
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3} Research done by and information looked up by Darrell Warner. Fayette County, Kentucky death certificate of Dessie (Warner) Stull.
4. ↑ Obituary of Dessie Belle (Warner) Stull.