Family talk:Saville Hyde and Susannah Butler (1)

Who are the children of Saville Hyde and Susannah Abigail Butler?

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IGI Records [27 January 2012]

Searching IGI Records for Father=Saville Hyde and Mother=Susannah Butler, yields the following:

Bishop's Transcripts for Quorndon
Saville Hyde Susannah Butler Entries
Name Sex Date Susannah's Age Place Source
MARY ANN HYDE F 02 APR 1793 Quorndon, Leicester, England 20 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
JOHN SAVILLE HYDE M 05 AUG 1796 Quorndon, Leicester, England 23 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
Bernard Stroud Hyde M 27 NOV 1799 (Birth)
24 JAN 1800 (Christening)
07 JAN 1814 (Death) 		Quorndon, Leicester, England 26 Record submitted by LDS Church Member
ELIZABETH HYDE F 24 JAN 1800 Quorndon, Leicester, England 27 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
THOMAS HYDE M 25 SEP 1801 Quorndon, Leicester, England 28 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
HUMPHERY HYDE M 15 AUG 1804 Quorndon, Leicester, England 31 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
HENRY HYDE M 15 AUG 1804 Quorndon, Leicester, England 31 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
Charles James Hyde M 12 SEP 1805 (Birth)
01 FEB 1863 (Death) 		Quorndon, Leicester, England 32 Record submitted by LDS Church Member
Edward Hyde M 29 JUN 1807 (Birth)
21 SEP 1807 (Death) 		Quorndon, Leicester, England 34 Record submitted by LDS Church Member
CLARENDON HYDE M 05 DEC 1808 Quorndon, Leicester, England 35 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
GEORGE WILLIAM HYDE M 08 JAN 1810 Quorndon, Leicester, England 37 Patron ordinance submission sheets, 1969-1991
MATILDA HYDE F 24 JUN 1811 Quorndon, Leicester, England 38 Patron ordinance submission sheets, 1969-1991
SUSANNAH HYDE F 24 JUN 1811 Quorndon, Leicester, England 38 Patron ordinance submission sheets, 1969-1991
CAROLINE HYDE F 17 JAN 1816 Quorndon, Leicester, England 43 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836
ALEXANDER HYDE M 17 JAN 1816 Quorndon, Leicester, England 43 Bishop's transcripts for Quorndon, 1584-1836

The current state of the wiki accepts any child either referenced in the Bishop's transcripts

  • MARY ANN HYDE
  • JOHN SAVILLE HYDE
  • ELIZABETH HYDE
  • THOMAS HYDE
  • HUMPHERY HYDE
  • HENRY HYDE (See discussion on twins)
  • CLARENDON HYDE
  • CAROLINE HYDE
  • ALEXANDER HYDE

Matilda and Susannah are not referenced in the Bishop's transcripts but they are referenced by Quorndon Parish Records of Marriages 1830 to 1837. In that reference they are a single person. Matilda Susannah is included as a child of John and Susannah.

  • MATILDA HYDE
  • SUSANNAH HYDE

It is said that Charles James Hyde is not confirmed as a son of Saville John Hyde.I belive the following will confirm that he was.

I am in have notebooks of Saville John Hyde in which he records payments to Charles James. I also have correspondence from John Saville to Charles James dated 12th August 1843. I also have a letter to Charles James from Edward Gregg the family solicitor Dated October 10 1835 regarding the urgency for the sale of his late father, Saville John Hyde, sale of the estate as set down in his father's will

There is a plaque in St Bartholomew's Church In Quorn Village which states; "In a vault beneath lie the remains of Saville John Hyde who died the 4th April 1830 aged 74 years. Also Susannah Abigail wife of the above who died March 23rd 1849 aged 76 years and interred in the family vault belonging to her son Charles James Hyde at the cemetery at Highgate Middlesex." I believe these serve to verify that Charles James was indeed the son of Saville and Susannah--David Davenport 10:32, 27 January 2012 (EST)

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Twins

Matilda and Susannah are clearly not twins. Caroline and Alexander must be. It is not unusual for a 43 year old woman to have twins. Are Humphrey and Henry truly twins or are they a conflation of first and middle name as Matilda/Susannah appears to be? For now Henry is not listed as a separate person.

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Other Referenced People [1 February 2012]

Three other persons are referenced as LDS submissions, but no primary record is currently available. For now they are listed here only. Note the column "Susannah's age" above. All three fit right into gaps. Therefore it is highly likely that they are true children.

  • Bernard Stroud Hyde
  • Charles James Hyde
  • Edward Hyde

To correct the sender of the letter sent to Charles James Hyde, I miss read the senders relationship. He was in fact Charles James brother in law, and the letter was cosigned by George William Hyde, his Brother.--David Davenport 04:32, 1 February 2012 (EST)

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