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Borgstede [15 March 2020]

Hello,

I am a regular "User" at WeRelate, but I have not posted my Borgstede data on WeRelate yet. My data goes back to Johann Gerhard Borgstede, who was born in 1818, and died in 1891. He was married to Anna Maria Engel STROBECK, born 15 Apr 1833 in Venne, in the Kingdom of Hannover. Venne is a small village, northeast of Osnabrueck. If you know the Strobeck name, then you know there is a lot online about them. In their "Tree" is a Maria Schuneken, born in the Netherlands in 1924. These families are related to a large group of families from the Venne, Engter, Kalkriese, etc. area; that migrated to southern Indiana, in the USA, in the mid 1800's.

Udo Thoerner of near Venne (is no longer living), but he wrote a book entitled: "Venne in America" in 2008. One of his contacts was F.C. Kraaijenhagen, of the Netherlands who supplied Udo with details on my Kreyenhagen (Kreinhagen) family from that area, for his book. Udo Originally wrote the book in the German Language, but it was translated into English. As I recall in a conversation with Udo, before he died, he indicated that Franz published something in Holland (1998?) about the Kalkriese families, but I do not know if it included the Borgstedes?

In Udo's book there were a dozen Strobeck names, but I did not see any Borgstede names. However, I do remember my mother talking about them (she knew them, but not I), and I do have some Indiana tombstone pictures.

My ggg-grandfather, Gerhard Kreyenhagen (Kreinhagen) owned a "Halberbe" (half heir) estate in Kalkriese, which was part of the site of the famous "Varus Disaster" battlefield in 9 AD. Of course, when Gerhard sold the farm to the Baron von Barr in 1847, the massacre of those Roman legions, long before the Saxons arrived, was long forgotten by everyone.

--White Creek 20:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

(Jim Lower)

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