Place talk:St. Columbkille Roman Catholic Cemetery, Uptergrove, Ontario, Ontario, Canada

Should we use modern "county" or historic? [24 September 2014]

I'm reviewing cemeteries in Ontario that I am currently not "watching" and adding resources, categories, etc.

St. Columbkille Roman Catholic Cemetery, Uptergrove, Ontario, Ontario, Canada is now considered part of Simcoe County rather than Ontario County. I think I will add it to Category for Cemeteries of Simcoe as I think that is where modern researchers will look for it.

What do you think?

Rick--RGMoffat 17:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

The problem is exactly like that for Holy Cross which was originally in the WR Toronto list. Answer comes as "light bulb". Use "See Also" with dates. Don't move it. It will be duplicated under Simcoe.

Pat --Goldenoldie 07:04, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Townships are optional for Cemetery Place names [24 September 2014]

I went back and found this in the FAQ:

Do you enter a cemetery as a place?

Yes, if the cemetery is located within the town limits enter the cemetery below the town: Cemetery, Town, County, State, Country. If the town is not known or if the cemetery is located in a rural area enter the cemetery below the county: Cemetery, County, State, Country. If you know the township, you may alternatively enter the cemetery below the township: Cemetery, Township, County, State, Country.

Based upon this, we just need to be consistent in whether we include township in the Place Name for the cemetery and in the related Categories.

I have no problem with your adding Ramara in the See Also list for this cemetery. Going forward in my reviews I will try to keep this in mind.

Right now I am reviewing existing cemeteries watched by users other than yourself. I see what you are doing with Street Addresses and will incorporate them in the same format.

Rick--RGMoffat 17:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Did you invent the cemetery category at the county level? No complaints. I think it's a good idea--a way to provide info for users who are coming at the "Where are they buried?" question from the "It's gotta be around here somewhere" angle. Just I haven't seen it before.

We have both been bringing Categories back into use on a strictly geographical basis. Tieing categories to surnames, as was taken out last year, was unwieldy, but geographical categories are helpful, particularly when the sources show up too. Leave the cemetery at both Simcoe and Ramara level, it won't hurt.

The Canada GenWeb Project has such a good database for addresses and facilities that it ought to be a Resource on every Ontario cemetery page. This could be done with a template directing to their homepage.

I will try to write to Dallan about Categories when I am feeling a bit perkier--or maybe you would like to introduce him to your county cemetery categories.

Surgical dressings have to be replaced at doctor's office every day this week. Yesterday I was working on some leftover adrenalin, today it is gone. I am sitting on a surgical "doughnut". And next week contains a family birthday and a wedding anniversary. Gone to ground. /cheers, Pat--Goldenoldie 18:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I didn't invent the county level Category. It is used for the USA which I used as examples during my learning curve. I agree that assigning this level assists in research, and to a certain extent will reduce the clutter of information at the Province level. For less populated provinces such as Saskatchewan I have not gone to this level of categorization, but for Ontario it is definitely worthwhile.

I commented in another topic on the GenWeb Project. It will not hurt to add it to all Ontario Cemeteries, perhaps with a note when transcriptions are not included.

Rick