Person talk:Thomas Linney (1)

Possible additional Son [12 April 2021]

Is there any indication that Thomas and Mary may have had another Son in 1811?

I have a Thomas Linney b1811, the 1851 Census says he was born in Woburn, but I can't find a baptism record for him either in Woburn or Leighton Buzzard.

What makes me think that he may be the son of, or at least related to, this Thomas is that on the 1851 Census in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire, his occupation was Rail Labourer. It appears that Thomas and two of his sons were also Rail Labourers, and none of the other Linney families on the 1841 Census around Leighton Buzzard had a recorded link to the railway.

This would also fit albeit tenuously, with the fact that Thomas and Mary Tring Married in 1810 and their first recorded child Hannah, was born in 1812.

This part of my tree is mostly speculation at the moment, as there is no recorded marriage of Thomas b1811 to Ann (who I believe is Ann Tompkins because her and her daughter Mary Ann's place and date of birth fit known facts, and there is a baptism record for Mary Ann Linney that also fits.), Ann Tomkins married Thomas Kingham in 1865 after the death of Thomas Linney(b1811) in 1863, the marriage certificate states that she was a spinster, also giving credence to the possibility that Thomas and Ann never married.

I can give more detail on this if it will help.

--Stevel05 12:11, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I think I may have answered my own question.

Leighton Buzzard Parish Registers (Bedfordshire Parish Registers Volume XXXII - Leighton Buzzard) Part II 1732 - 1812) creator:"Emmison, F. G. (Frederick George), 1907-1995, editor"

available at : archive.org

There is an entry on page 109:

December 5 1806 Tho s Mary TRING, "Juffrey" BRINCKLOW reputed father.

Although this is 5 years before the age given on 1851 & 1861 Census, it seems possible to me that this is the Thomas I am looking for.

--Stevel05 17:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree that from what you've found it's reasonable to think that the Thomas son of Mary Tring baptised in 1806 may well have later taken his stepfather's name to become the Thomas Linney who as an adult worked on the railways and moved to Middleton Cheney and then Ludlow. That may also explain why Thomas Linney and Mary Tring didn't name any of the sons they had after their marriage Thomas after the husband, as would have been fairly normal - Mary already had a son called Thomas.

Have you checked this birth registration (Banbury district covering Middleton Cheney) - looks like it could be the Mary Ann Linney daughter of Thomas and Ann baptised at Middleton Cheney on 30th September 1849:

b. Mary Ann LENEY, September Quarter 1849, Banbury Registration District, Volume 16, page 5, mother's maiden name Howe

The mother's maiden name being Howe rather than Tomkins would then fit with the 1891 and 1901 censuses in which the widowed Ann Kingham is living with an unmarried sister called Sarah Howe in Luton.--RichardK 06:28, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that record, only the baptism record that doesn't give maiden names. As usual one step forward, two back as the Mary Ann in my tree married under the name Tompkins. There is more mileage in this story yet. --Stevel05 09:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

For a bit more background, I have a Marriage certificate for Thomas Kingham and Ann Tomkins 2 July 1865 in Chalgrave, Bedfordshire, so quite where Sarah Howe fits in as sister is another puzzle to be solved. --Stevel05 11:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)