Person talk:Samuel Daggett (12)

Two Samuels? [15 June 2019]

The Doggett-Daggett Family in America lists two Samuels, one b. 1683 and one b. 1685. However, the Marshfield vital records lists the entire family register and there is only one Samuel shown and no child born in 1685. So on what authority is the Doggett-Daggett Genealogy saying this? It does not appear to justify, explain, or provide a source. One would think such a discrepancy would require at least a comment?

This duo of Samuels is repeated in many secondary sources, and all the sources provide have no justification that has been noticed. It certainly is plausible that a child might have died young and another one be born a year and a half later. But there is no death record (most sources say the first "d. young" a clear indicator the assertion of death is based on assumption solely because the existence of the second child is accepted, i.e., not any independent knowledge of the death such as would be provided by a death record or gravestone). Why is there no birth record for the second in the Marshfield records? Perhaps the online copy, though clearly old, is a copy, but the published records who would have had access to everything available, and it only shows the one. There does not appear to be an age at death, though it is not clear age at death can be relied on for this small a discrepancy. Church records lost before about 1701 so no baptisms for this period exist. Is there a deposition? Is there a diary? Is there a family Bible? Since proposing two Samuels essentially requires refuting a contemporary source, a pretty high quality source is needed to justify this. --Jrich 00:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

You raise some valid questions as to the existence of a second son Samuel in this family. Cutter's Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of Boston and Eastern Massachusetts (p 1223) also gives birth dates for two sons named Samuel, but that information probably came from the Doggett-Daggett book. Without any substantial evidence, perhaps the 2nd Samuel should be merged or deleted, leaving this talk page as an explanation. --KayS 01:57, 15 June 2019 (UTC)