Person talk:Samuel Black (15)

On the Samuel Black/Jane Porter page you have a 1754 marriage date for them. They were married in 1749 according to Samuel's will. See below.


RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project; [Untitled]; Entries: 25 1; Updated: 9 Feb 2001; Contact: David J. Damico <DDamico826@aol.com> "***SAMUEL BLACK, b 1727 in County Down, Ireland[2 1], d 28 Dec 1782 in Augusta Co, VA[ 3 1], s/o John Black (b 1698); m 1749 in Augusta Co, VA[4 1] to Jane Porter, b 1731, d 15 Au g 1814, Augusta Co, VA. Child: John Black, b 21 Dec 1755 in Augusta Co, VA MILITARY: Samuel son of John was a 2'd Lt. , in the Revolution.

Note:
s/o John & f/o John & William; Catherine's grandfather; Came to Va with his father at age 10 in 1737; Had 9 children; purchased 600 acres in the Draper area of Montgomery Co in 1772, but probably never lived there; Left the land equally to his sons, John & William-William was already living there.Of the sons of JOHN BLACK, Samuel the third son was but ten years of age when he came with his father to Virginia in 1737, and he also certified as to the correctness of this just prior to his decease in 1782, when he was a resident of Augusta county, and began his will with the statement that he was then 55 years of age, was born in 1727 and married in Augusta County, Va. in 1749 to Jane Porter who was born in 1731. They had nine children, (Bible Reference) and Samuel [is] outlived [by] his wife.
In the records of Augusta County his will is placed in book 6 - Page 230 and is dated September 2, 1782. As stated he began his will with the statement of his age
then named his legatees as
his son John to whom he left 300 acres of land located on New River where he lived , and
to son Wiliam 300 acres
rest of the tract as given to his son John,
then to sons Samue l and William, infants (that is under the age of eighteen) the home place known as "Pine Knot "
and to his several daughters, Mary, Martha Anne, Margaret, Nancy, and Jean
then to wife also.
He named as Executors his wife with his brother William Black and William Porter his wife' s brother, and the witnesses were Walter S. Davis, Thomas Stuart, and Matthew Alexander.
The date of will as probated was April 19, 1783 and all Executors qualified. May 6, 1783
the estate of Samuel Black was appraised by three men of Augusta County and the Continental Loan Office issued a certificate dated June 1784 for six thousand dollars. At the time James Best was the accountant.
Will Book 2 Page 206 of Augusta County, Virginia, date November 15, 1801 , WILLIAM BLACK having been appointed one of the Executors of Samuel Black was given a receipt by the legatees for their interest in the estate of Samuel Black viz; John Black, Matthew A lexander, and wife Jane, Samuel Price and wife Margaret, William Black and wife Jane, William Black Jr. ,Martha, Samuel, Nancy and James Black.
That may be true, but what you are citing is someone's interpretation of the will, not the will itself. The person whose quote is given above, may have this exactly right, but they may also have inserted the information based what he already believed to be true (yes, people do that.), or on a misinterpretation of the will (they also do that). WIthout a transcript of the will itself (not an abstract) the point can't be evaluated. I should also add that it is highly unusual form someone to include something like their DOM in their will. Occasionally you'll see them including more biographical information, (like "I was born in …..") but including a DOM would be definitely unusual. Hence there/s a need to see the actual will.===or at a minimum, a direct extract that includes this information, rather than a statement that's not obscured by the transcriber's description, as is the case here. Q 13:12, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Page needs to be changed due incorrect data: [20 March 2016]

--RBH 22:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


You still show Samuel Black (1727) being married in Albemarle and death in Albemarle.
He was never in Albemarle. Obviously mixed up with his Uncle Rev. Samuel Black(1700)

His marriage date is the marriage date of his Uncle Rev. Samuel Black who married
Catherine Shaw. Their first born daughter Margaret was born in 1755.

I don't know where the early marriage date and births of his children came from. He was born 1700 and trained for the Ministry in IRE. and then came to Chester Co. PA. to continue his education and receive his license to preach. He came to Augusta Co.Va. to see his brother and then became a traveling preacher for four years. He bought land in Albemarle in 1748 and then he married Catherine Shaw in 1754. If all of these children were born in 1730's when would he have had the time to travel and leave a wife and children while he traveled for four years in many different counties. I think this bears some looking into. ALso, on your page for Samuel Black, you state he died in 1782 in Albermarle, yet down in your notes you clearly show his will be entered in Augusta Co. records.

In earlier discussions you stated that Samuel and Rebecca Jane Porter could not have been married in 1749 and yet while writing his will, it is stated that before his wrote his will, he certified as to the correctness of: that he was born in 1727 in Londonderry, County Derry,Ulster Ireland and came to America when he was 10 years old with his parents and that he was married in 1749 to Jane(Jean)(Gean)Porter and she was born in 1731. This information is recorded in notes of descendants in Blacksburg, Virginia records. Their earliest born child is said to have been born in 1752 after some of his early military had ended. All of their children were born in Augusta on land that Samuel was left from his father John Black's will. He continued to buy land in Augusta (South River)and 6000 acres in Draper's Meadows which he left to his two sons, John and William. William was already living on this land at the time of the will. RBH--RBH 22:36, 20 March 2016 (UTC)