Person talk:Joseph Hatfield (9)

Citation "S&" [30 June 2009]

Looks like a typo for S8, which has not been created. Presume this is a reference to the census record.--Q 16:18, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

A typo for "7", I think, which is on the same key. Fixed, in any case. --Mike (mksmith) 14:38, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

formatting [30 June 2009]

Mike, I've taken the liberty of doing some reformating to place this into the Southwest Virginia Project. Note the links to various "special project" pages. See the "Explanation" link for a summary of what those pages are about. "Style and format" for some of this remains "explorational", though most of the kinks have been worked out. Its a matter of trying different approaches to see what works and what does not. The "Notebooks" are especially important, because that's where I systematically capture data. I've a suite of specific references that I go through and extract data from them. Then the data is handy for future reference when it comes time to write the article. Interestingly, the Hatfields do not appear extensively in either Summers 1903, or Summers 1929. I haven't checked Robertson's land records yet, but suspect there will be some hits there. There are many more hits for Hatfields in the Kegley series Western Waters. Looks like they mostly deal with Hatfields in the New River settlements. I'll probably do a data extraction for the Hatfields this week. A narrative overview of Joseph's life is needed, but I'll probably not be able to get to that for sometime. The data capture that you've recorded there is very useful, and you can see something of the outline of his life in that data. What I'd like to add to the "overview" are the key details like where he came from, and where he went---his origin and fate, and along the way the story of his life. I'm look forward to being able to examine the Hatfield site when it comes back online. I also linked to sites like this, though I try to extract what's needed before link rot sets in! Q 16:32, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, that looks good! (I've always had the feeling that Joseph Hatfield himself felt that he was someone who ought to be taken seriously. . . .) I've written narrative summaries of Joseph's life several times over the years, but it all has had to be based on primary (or at least disinterested) sources. Most of the family histories written before the past couple of decades tended to give full credence to the often self-serving mythology within the family. You might want to take a look at the photo on Person:Emanuel_Hatfield_(1)'s page, in that regard. I'll take another crack at that, though, and round it out more. (And I'll go back and look up the proper citations for those court documents.)

Summers has a number of gaps when it comes to which families he covered. I don't believe he includes the Ashcrafts, either (though they had more of an impact up in the Yohogania area), nor the Gastineau family. I'll get you a copy of Leslie Collier's emails, too. --Mike (mksmith) 14:58, 30 June 2009 (EDT)