Person talk:Richard Sambourne (1)


From William John Samborne (1): Given name [9 August 2014]

What's the story of the given name here? My sources all have his name as John Sanborn, including the George Chandler history of the Chandler family.--Parsa 01:01, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

Thanks to Jrich for all the merging work. Parsa 11:29, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

Anderson in the Great Migration Begins identifies him as "--- Samborne", which is usually a pretty good indication that no document, such as a will, deed, or marriage record, has been found that actually provides his given name. Use of John or William are most likely assumptions based on the names of his children, or some other assumption, and will vary from author to author. For example, the Chandler Family merely lists "John Sanborn by his wife Miss Bachelor" in a litany of ancestors of the wife of Moses Chandler. There is no evidence given there to support his assertion that this was the actual name or explanation of how he knew this. Back in 1883, when it was written, they were much more willing to accept family tradition, etc., without requiring verifiable evidence. --Jrich 11:45, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

The NEHGR article on the Sanborn Family, vol. 10, p. 271, explicitly says, "tradition says his name was John". --Jrich 11:55, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
Thanks... and collaborating here on WeRelate to find that evidence is what we're here for. Otherwise we'd by over at WorldConnect uploading hundreds of conflicting Gedcoms. :)
I guess "John's" parents have a parallel duplicate line back to Nicolas Samborne (1), who has two different fathers named Walter. I wish more people would read your user page! — Parsa 12:01, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

I've been doing a lot more research on the three Samborne (Sanborn) brothers, grandsons of Stephen Bachiler, and it seems there's no firm link between the American line and the English line. However, as Victor Channing Sanborn states, they are likely related as the Samborne name is relatively rare, and many of them lived in areas where the Reverend Bachiler was from. V. C. Sanborn traces both lines in several books and articles. In his earlier books he seems to have mentioned "John" as a possible given name for the father, in deference to the 1856 article by Nathan Sanborn. However, in his later works from 1899 on, he mentions a William of Brimpton, Berks. He outlines the possible fathers or lineal ancestors of the three brothers in his 1897 book (and NEHGR article) "The First Sambornes of Hampton in New Hampshire", page 3. It seems to me that none of the sources on this WeRelate page either prove the given name, nor the actual link to those listed for the English Sambornes. – Parsa 00:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)