Person talk:Elizabeth Cecil (20)

Demo source citation [2 August 2022]

I am adding a duplicate citation to the 1930 census, just so you can see a different style of citing a census. This one includes an external link to the source image at FS which is not behind the ancestry paywall and an internal link to the top level WR Source page Source:United States. 1930 U.S. Census Population Schedule that we usually use when citing the 1930 US census. I did this for demo purposes, so you can use what you wish and delete as you prefer.

You could also make a more generic citation for the household as a whole and then (to save time) copy and paste the entire citation to each household member's page. I often do this with will abstracts. You had mentioned somewhere that you were thinking of putting census citations on the Family page. You can do that, but unfortunately, if I remember correctly, I think that it will only show up on the Person pages for each parent and not each child. You can play around with it and see.

As you can see, there are a lot of options :) --cos1776 21:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Cos.

Some questions/comments:

Re the top-level source page for the 1930 census, how is that useful? I would have thought that the more specific pages would be more useful, as WR users might be able to see who lived near their ancestors at a particular date.

This practice evolved over time. I would have to go back and read over all of the history to remember all of the reasons, but the main ones were that the Search engine improved as the site developed and that separate publications did not exist for every variation of census sub-place (states, counties, town, etc.) and the older ones that did were essentially derivatives of the primary source (the census itself). As you may recall, the Source database originally started by being populated with all of the sources in the FS catalog, so it includes some of the older publications when compilers would try to help researchers by splitting up the records.

If you want to see all of the people in WR who have been linked to a particular place at a particular time, try Search>People and then enter relevant keywords to narrow your search, such as "1930 Sylvia Reno Kansas" or just "Sylvia Reno Kansas". Remember to start with a wide net and that WR pages can only be found if the data already exists on the page.

--cos1776 22:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

As for FamilySearch, oh yes, I know that many people prefer to see citations to a free site rather than a paid one. In my defense: All my work is on Ancestry. It would be considerably more time-consuming (especially cumulatively, and, well, less fun) if I had to go find those sources all over again on FS. I hope that by adding specific enough citations to WR, I'll enable viewers to find the FS sources for themselves, if they care to. So far (except for some long-neglected people whose pages I've added to in order to correct longstanding data quality issues) I've been working on my own close family so I doubt many people will be questioning the information. I will try to keep in mind that as I move on to people of more general interest, more accessible sources would be welcome.--Julie Kelts 23:01, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad to see that you are entering pages manually (vs uploading a gedcom). It is always good to be able to slow down and check over things again. I find that working with a split screen makes it easier to cite source images from the free sites. --cos1776 22:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)