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Based on my experience reading and transcribing early English wills, the phrase "uncle John Albro & his wife my aunt" strongly suggests that the blood relative of Alice (Paine) Strange and Mary (Paine) Tripp was the aunt. If true in this case, Dorothy would have been either the sister of Anthony Paine or the sister of his unknown wife. --Susan Irish 14:13, 17 February 2011 (EST)
- That seems the most probable. However, given that Dorothy d. 1696, and Anthony and his wife married in 1610, their ages don't match well. At best, Anthony and his wife were the oldest child in their families, and Dorothy was the youngest, or a similar arrangement, because it seems like Dorothy needs to be at least 20 years younger than either of them, or more. So, while it is the first place to look, it would be wise to keep an open mind. There are odd-ball possibilities, like Alice being related to Nathaniel Potter, or Dorothy related to Lot Strange that may fit better age-wise and still explain the relationship. --Jrich 15:30, 17 February 2011 (EST)
- I've been poking around in these families most of the afternoon and I noticed that John Albro is identified in the will as a kinsman, NOT as a cousin. If either John Albro or his wife Dorothy was an uncle or aunt by blood, you would think their natural son would be called cousin like all the others mentioned. Therefore I think the relationship is by marriage, not by blood, though I still agree it is probably to Dorothy. The question remains whether the connection is Alice to Nathaniel Potter or Dorothy to Lot Strange. The Potter family is confused. Some people suspect the Susanna Potter who married John Anthony was a sister of Nathaniel, but their son John Anthony is also called kinsman (and Francis Anthony, who I assume is John Anthony's first wife Frances Wodell, before he married Susanna Albro). Therefore I am inclined to focus on Lot Strange believing that a childless widow might remain close to some of her husband's relatives. There is an article in the American Genealogist, v. 56, issue 3, p. 148 (1980) that has an article on John & Lot Strange of Portsmouth and their origins. Next time I'm at the library, in a few weeks or so, I will look it up to see if it helps. The one website I can find that cites this article doesn't seem to show anything about Dorothy, so I'm guessing there isn't anything there that helps. --Jrich 22:12, 17 February 2011 (EST)
- In the wills I have worked with the term "cousin" refers to the children of brothers and sisters, people we would call nieces and nephews today. Children of aunts and uncles and other relatives are frequently grouped together as "kinsmen." I have been searching unsuccessfully for a Francis Anthony in New England who could be listed in Alice's will. Had not yet considered a female Frances as in Frances Wodell. --Susan Irish 22:30, 17 February 2011 (EST)
- Doh! of course. I ignored all the Tripp relationships, or I'd have seen it. I was aware of the various uses of terms, just assumed Alice wouldn't have had married nephews and nieces, and in fact married children of some of them. I also focused on the kinsman because there were so many cousins. There is an abstract of this will in Austin's Dictionary of RI that has some slight differences, namely it talks about "kinswoman Frances Anthony" and names "kinsman John Keese" as executor and gives him "all my housing and lands". Also kinsman John Albro is named overseer, which makes me wonder if my assumption it was the son is incorrect. --Jrich 23:27, 17 February 2011 (EST)
Is there any authoritative source evidence that Dorothy the wife of Nathaniel Potter was the daughter of Samuel Wilbore and Anne (Bradford?) Smith? Samuel and Anne were married in early 1620, and that doesn't support the birth date of 1617 supposed for Dorothy (presumably to be married by 1635). A birth after 1620 to Samuel and Anne doesn't match well with a possible marriage date of 1635 or 1636. Close but no cigar, I think.
Any other Dorothy's in Portsmouth RI in the 1635-6 period?
- The exhaustive five part article on Samuel and William Wilbore in NEHGR Vols. 112 and 113 lists five children, all sons, for Samuel and Anne (Smith) Wilbore, Dorothy obviously not being one of them. Torrey gives Nathaniel Porter one Dorothy for a wife, but without even a guess at her surname.--jaques1724 14:08, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
- I completed the merges to get rid of the bogus Dorothy Wilbore. I don't know anything about these families so there may be some residual inaccurate content--jaques1724 14:17, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
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