Person:Robert Else (2)

Robert ELSE marriage to one Mary TOLHURST at Bethersden, Kent 27 Dec, 1813. Witnesses: Joseph JARVIS and John BEAN (Source: familysearch.org)

Edward ELSE marriage to one Mary WILSON at Bethersden, Kent 6 Nov, 1818. Witnesses: Clark HILLS (farmer) and Charlotte WILSON (Source: familysearch.org)

To date, no record has been found, by this researcher, of a marriage between Robert ELLS/ELSE and a Mary WILSON or WILLSON

NB: Edward Else, otherwise Edward Tolhurst (born around 1818) appears (along with a Robert Else) on the Criminal Registers (ancestry) for larceny. (Trial date: 3 Jan 1839). This may be the Edward Else who appears in the household of the shoemaker Robert Else at Boughton Malherbe, Kent (1841 Census). He may be the miller/dealer/grocer Edward Else, who appears in the 1851 Census for Minster-in-Sheppey, Kent, with whom is said to be his mother (a widow?) and Edward's 'sisters'. The Else sisters (Martha and Sarah) appear in the 1841 shoemaker Robert Else's household in Boughton Malherbe, Kent. Edward's mother is, in this researcher's opinion, NOT the mother of the 'sisters', who is believed to be Mary TOLHURST.

Although the two Mary Elses share the same name, they differ on their dates of birth.

In my opinion, the Mary Else in the 1851 Minster-in-Sheppey Census is NOT the Mary Else who appears in the 1841 Census for Bethersden, at Tuesnoad Farm, with whom may be sons from her marriage with Edward Else (1799-1841). This particular Edward Else does not appear on the 1841 Census for Kent. Edward Else seems to have been buried St Mary's Church at Bethersden, Kent, 9 February, 1841.

Cordwainer/shoemaker by trade

Possible child in Charles Else, bc1827 Boughton Malherbe - d1836, Boughton Malherbe, Kent (source: Tyler Index, ancestry)

1. ↑ Parish Registers, St. Nicholas, Boughton Malherbe, Kent, ENGLAND. (microfilm)
   P38/1/2 CMB 1716 - 1794.

   Note: This same source has been cited as evidence for a baptismal date of 27 May 1789. See: Robert Else, in Drew Family, Source:Ancestry.com Public Member Trees, accessed 14 Jan 2015

2. ↑ England. Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. (FamilySearch, Ancestry.com, Findmypast).

   Name: Robert Ells
   Gender: Male
   Baptism Date: 27 May 1787
   Baptism Place: Boughton-Malherbe, Kent, England
   Father: Robert Ells
   Mother: Mary Ells
   Source: FHL Film Number 1736528

3. ↑ ^3.0 3.1 District 6, Boughten Malherbe, Kent, in England. 1851 Census Returns for England and Wales. (
   Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom:
   The National Archives (abbreviated TNA), formerly the UK General Register Office.)
   Folio: 306; Page: 19; GSU roll: 193519.

   HH 59, Broadston
   Else, Robert, 55, showemaker, b. Kent, Boughten Mal
   , Mary, 53, wife, b. Kent, Bethersden

4. ↑ District 12, Boughten Malherbe, Kent, in England. 1841 Census Schedules for England and Wales, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. (
   Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom:
   The National Archives (abbreviated TNA), formerly the UK General Register Office.)
   Folio 18, p. 8, line 24.

   Broadstone
   Ells, Robert 45 [i.e., between 45 and 49], shoemaker, b. Kent
   , Mary, 45, b. Kent
   , Martha, 11, b. Kent
   , George, 9, b. Kent
   , Sarah, 3, b. Kent
   , Edward, 20, b. Kent

5. ↑ Tyler Index to Parish Registers, 1538-1874. (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010).

   7 Mar 1855, Robert Else, Hollingbourne dist.: age 73, burial

6. ↑ General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Death Index. (London, United Kingdom: General Register Office, 1837-Present).

   Deaths Mar 1855, Hollingbourne District, Kent

7. ↑ ^7.0 7.1 Reg dist. Hollingbourne.
8.   In the 1841 English Census, ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest "five" year, so someone listed as as 45 would have been between the ages of 45 and 49.