Again there was a short tenure of the manors and a long minority, for Richard died 27 December, 1397, leaving a son and heir Richard, not quite fifteen months old. The latter fought under Henry V in the French wars and was made a knight; in 1424 occurred his quarrel with the Stanleys, which threatened to become a private war. Henry VI, for services rendered and expected, granted him and his heirs the offices of master forester of the forest and parks of West Derbyshire, steward of this wapentake and of Salfordshire, and constable of the castle of Liverpool. By his first wife, Joan, daughter and heir of Sir Gilbert Haydock, he had several sons.