Person:Mabel Seeley (1)

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Mabel Fern Seeley
m. 12 Sep 1889
  1. Clarence George Seeley1890 - 1980
  2. Florence Seeley1892 - Abt 1967
  3. Harry Harold Seeley1894 - 1991
  4. Hazel Seeley1896 - 1990
  5. Mabel Fern Seeley1898 - 1943
  6. George Andrew Seeley1902 - 1951
m. 11 Aug 1917
  1. William George Osborne1918 - 1979
  2. Margaret Osborne1921 - 1952
  3. Norman C. Osborne1922 - 1998
  4. Robert R Osborne1929 - 1989
Facts and Events
Name Mabel Fern Seeley
Alt Name[5] Mabel Osborne
Gender Female
Birth[6][9] 3 Aug 1898 Frankenlust, Bay, Michigan, USAMay be in error: 1 July 1898
Alt Birth[5] 3 Aug 1898 Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
Residence[1] 1900 Frankenlust, Bay, Michigan, USA
Residence[2] 1910 Bay City, Bay, Michigan, United States
Marriage 11 Aug 1917 Prescott, Ogemaw, Michigan, USAto Norman William Osborne
Residence[3] 1920 Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States
Residence[4] 1930 Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
Residence[5] 1943 Michigan, USA
Death[7] 15 May 1943 Standish, Arenac, Michigan, USA
Alt Death[5] 15 May 1943 Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
Burial[8] 18 May 1943 Elm Lawn Cemetery/Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA

Mabel, according to everyone in the family was born July 1, 1900. 1900 appears on her tombstone as her birth year. But the 1900 census, dated 19 June 1900 (a few weeks before her supposed date of birth), states that she was one year old with a birth date in July 1899! But that information is confusing. The age of 1 is supposed to be her age at her last birthday. If she was born in July 1899 then her age would have been listed as 11/12, as she would not yet have reached her first birthday. If she was born in July 1898 then her age at her last birthday would have been 1 as listed. July 1899 contradicts the age of 1, whereas July 1898 would be consistent with 1 year old.


Her marriage certificate in 1917 states she was 19, implying a birth date in 1898. Before the census information was located we had assumed that she had lied on her marriage certificate to make herself seem older, as she had married a man who was 25 years old.


We have located a possible birth record in the Bay County Birth Ledger. The record is for a Mabel Selly with parents of George and Harinth Selly. This could be a series of misspellings by the entry clerk. There are Selly families in Bay City, according to census records. However, I have not been able to find a George, Harinth or Mabel Selly though. This birth record also has George born in England, whereas his birth year occurred while the family was living in Detroit, after his father had emigrated from Germany. The birth record has George as a fireman, which he was. The birth record has a birth date of 3 Aug 1898, not in July. It should be noted that this record was filed with the county on 13 July 1899, about a year after the birth occurred. Late filings like this were very common in that time period. In spite of all the errors on the birth record, we believe that this record does refer to Mabel Seeley and that the errors can be at least partially explained by the late filing.


We also have the Funeral viewing and services signing book from the funeral home.

References
  1. Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census. (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;)
    Database online. Bay, Michigan, ED 47, roll T623 701, page 12A.

    Record for Mabel Seeley _ABBR: Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), Database online. Bay, Michigan, ED 47, roll T623 701, page 12A.

    Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004), Database online. Bay, Michigan, ED 47, roll T623 701, page 12A.

  2. Ancestry.com. 1910 Federal United States Census. (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;)
    Database online. Bay City Ward 6, Bay, Michigan, ED , roll T624_637, part , page .

    Record for Mabel Sarley _ABBR: Ancestry.com, 1910 Federal United States Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), Database online. Bay City Ward 6, Bay, Michigan, ED , roll T624_637, part , page .

    Ancestry.com, 1910 Federal United States Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006), Database online. Bay City Ward 6, Bay, Michigan, ED , roll T624_637, part , page .

  3. Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census. (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;)
    Database online. Flint Ward 1, Genesee, Michigan, ED , roll , page , image 933.

    Record for Mabel Osborn

    Ancestry.com, 1920 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005), Database online. Flint Ward 1, Genesee, Michigan, ED , roll , page , image 933.

  4. Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census (1). (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,;)
    Year: 1930; Census Place: Bay City, Bay, Michigan; Roll: 975; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 83.0.

    Birth date: abt 1901
    Birth place:
    Residence date: 1930
    Residence place: Bay City, Bay, Michigan

  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 Ancestry.com. Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995. (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.Original data - "Michigan Deaths and Burials, 1800–1995." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2009, 2010. Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled rec;).

    Birth date: abt 1901
    Birth place: Bay City
    Death date: 15 May 1943
    Death place: Bay City, Arenac, Michigan
    Residence date:
    Residence place: Michigan, United States

  6. Bay County, Michigan Birth Ledger
    Seeley, Mabel Vol H P335 record#67.

    Aug 3 1898 Mabel Selley f w pob Frankenlust parents Geo & Harinth selley res Frankenlust pob England for both fireman dor 7/13/1899 _ABBR: Bay County, Michigan Birth Ledger, Seeley, Mabel Vol H P335 record#67

    Bay County, Michigan Birth Ledger, Seeley, Mabel Vol H P335 record#67. Aug 3 1898 Mabel Selley f w pob Frankenlust parents Geo & Harinth selley res Frankenlust pob England for both fireman dor 7/13/1899

  7. Bay County Newspaper Obituaries
    Seeley, Mabel Bay City Times 05161943.
  8. Funeral Booklet, in Funeral Booklet, record of signings and services at viewing and burial services.
  9. State: Michigan
    County: Bay
    Vol: H
    Page: 335
    Record #: 67
    Date of Birth: Aug 3, 1898
    Name: Mabel Selley
    Sex: F
    Race: White
    Stillborn,illegitimate,etc:
    Birthplace: Frankenlust
    Father: Geo Selley
    Mother: Harinth Selley
    Father Residence: Frankenlust
    Mother Residence: Frankenlust
    Father Birthplace: England
    Mother Birthplace: England
    Occupation of Father: Fireman
    Date of Record: July 13, 1899
  10.   Ancestry.com, 1930 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002), Database online. Bay City, Bay, Michigan, ED 17, roll 975, page , image 83.0.