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The Ancestral File and multiple web sources say she was b. 10 Mar 1609 in Limpfield, Surrey, daughter of Family:James Bates and Alice Glover (3). However, no reliable source is ever cited, and neither the James Bates genealogy at NEHGS nor Savage believe Elizabeth is their daughter. Since almost every secondary source identifies her as the daughter or sister of James Bates who married Alice Glover, "no reliable source" appears to be a tautology (they are not reliable because they show this). The correct question is what evidence is there that suggests this is even possible. It is described in Source:Hitchcock, Russell Snow. Family History : Ancestors of Russell Snow Hitchcock, 1620-1947, p. 85, based on Suffolk Probate Vol. 5, p. 246 which is excepted below with highlighting added. "29th:2:1675" [29 Apr 1675]: "Edward Bate aged 67 years or thereabout testifieth that Thomas Lawrance of hingham a little before his death being on his death bed as his last act and will with all his estate both in land and goods some smale thing excepted if there were any thing excepted if there weare any to his wife Elizabeth Lawrance and what shee left at hir death should be given to his Children equally devided the deceased of the sd Thomas Lawrance was aboute 17 or 18 yeares agoe; ... " "The humble petition of Elizabeth Lawrance widdow now living in dorchester that for as much as my husband Thomas Lawrance deceased did upon his death bed a little Before hee dyed very Solumly in the presents of my Brother Elder Edward Bate of waymouth and lef't John Smith of Hingham give as his last will and testam't that smale estate hee was then possest of to mee the s'd Elizabeth Lawrance his then wife desiring my brother Edward Bate to bee my Counseller when he was gone and by whose Counsell I acted in Refferance to the estate my husband left mee and in this following particular in selling a small p'sell of land to Lef't John Smith who then gave to the vallue of itt and unto whome I gave a deed under hand and seale about twenty yeares agoe..." Since it was generally held that Edward Bates was a brother to James Bates of Dorchester, and since the widow returned to Dorchester, naturally this turned into the assertion seen everywhere that Elizabeth was sister or daughter of James Bates of Dorchester. However, modern research shows that Edward Bates is not the brother of James Bates of Dorchester. Waters' presentation (see the link embedded in the Torrey citation, p. 1302) of the Bates family in Lydd, England shows that that Edward, brother of James, was buried in 1616. Further Source:Bates, Samuel A. Genealogy of the Descendants of Edward Bates of Weymouth, Massachusetts, gives the gravestone inscription of Edward Bates of Weymouth, showing he died i1686 aged 81 born about 1605 (note, also, the age in the above deposition), and is thought to originate near Boston, England (since he appears to have come to New England as a servant or apprentice with Thomas Leverett) which is about 150 miles from Lydd. Then TAG, "The English Origin of Macuth1 (or Matthew) Pratt and Edward1 Bates of Weymouth, Mass." by Frederick J. Nicholson, parish records Vol. 65, pp. 41-43; family summary Vol. 65, p. 94; identifies his parents and wife Susanna Putnam, proving that Elizabeth was not related to James Bates of Dorchester. The question remains, was Elizabeth the sister, or sister-in-law of Edward Bates. According to the TAG article, p. 65:94, Edward has a sister Elizabeth, bp. 1604, "poss. the Elisabeat Beate who m. Aston Clinton 30 Sep 1629 Walter ["Water"] Warde". Susanna Putnam, p. 65:96, has a sister Elizabeth, bp. 1612, "living 10 Nov. 1625 (father's will)". The latter seems a more likely age for the wife of Thomas Lawrence. References
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