Person:Charles Warren (19)

m. 11 Sep 1886
Facts and Events
Name Thomas Charles Warren
Alt Name Charles Thomas Jakes Warren
Gender Male
Birth[1] 1867 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England
Christening[2] 14 Nov 1869 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, EnglandAll Saints
Census[3] 2 Apr 1871 Luton, Bedfordshire, England184 Wellington Street
Census[4] 3 Apr 1881 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, EnglandHigh Street
Marriage 11 Sep 1886 Luton, Bedfordshire, Englandto Victoria Alberta Moss
Census[5] 5 Apr 1891 Luton, Bedfordshire, England6 Windsor Street
Census[6] 31 Mar 1901 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England75 Marlborough Road
Census[7] 2 Apr 1911 Luton, Bedfordshire, England9 May Street
Death[12][13] 1933 Letchworth, Hertfordshire, England
Burial[13] 5 Jan 1933 Willian, Hertfordshire, England

Thomas Charles Warren was born in 1867 in Huntingdon, son of Mary Ann Warren, formerly Jakes, and her husband Charles Warren, an agricultural labourer. His birth and baptism records called him "Charles Thomas Jakes Warren", but in all other records he was called Thomas Charles Warren. The 1871 census finds Thomas living with his paternal grandparents in Luton. By 1881 he had returned to Huntingdon, where he appears with his mother and siblings on High Street.

On 11th September 1886, aged 18, Thomas married Victoria Alberta Moss in Luton. They went on to have nine children together between 1887 and 1907, although four of them died as infants. In 1891 they were living at 6 Windsor Street in Luton, with Thomas working as an engine and machine maker, whilst Victoria was a straw hat machinist.

The family briefly moved to Bedford, having a daughter there in 1900 and appearing there in the 1901 census at 75 Marlborough Road, when Thomas was described as a planing machinist in an iron foundry. By 1905 they had returned to Luton, having their youngest three children there between 1905 and 1907. The 1911 census finds the family living in a five roomed house at 9 May Street, with Thomas described as an engineer in a motor works.

In 1914 Thomas and Victoria separated. One Monday in February that year Thomas came home drunk and assaulted Victoria, accusing her of having a "fancy man". He was brought before the magistrates and bound over to keep the peace. It was noted that he appeared to have been drinking before his court appearance too. The following month he was brought back before the court and order to make maintenance payments of seven shillings and six pence a week to Victoria for raising their two youngest children, which was about a fifth of his income of 36 shillings a week.

Having left Victoria, Thomas moved in with a widow called Annie Maria Rosson, formerly Haynes. She had a child in 1915 called Cyril Warren Rosson - the middle name suggests Thomas was probably Cyril's father, although Cyril died as a baby. Annie also had a son called Percy Rosson in 1917 and a daughter called Phyllis May Warren Rosson in 1918. Again, Phyllis' middle name would appear to point towards Thomas being the father.

Thomas and Annie lived at Adelaide Terrace, a courtyard off George Street, the main shopping street in the centre of Luton. In 1919 they were both named in reports of a complicated set of cases where several residents of Adelaide Terrace accused each other of assault over a weekend. It would appear that Thomas and Annie were peripheral to the main argument and the charges against them and those that they brought were dropped.

In 1920 Thomas went to court to try and have the maintenance order he was still paying to Victoria varied, on the basis that he was earning less, having had his working hours reduced to twenty hours a week due to a coal strike. When questioned by the court, Thomas admitted that he was living with another woman and had another family to keep. The court declined to vary the order.

Annie Rosson died in Luton in 1924, aged about 52.

Thomas left Luton and moved to the 'Garden City' of Letchworth in Hertfordshire, which had been founded in 1903, where he lived at 30 Dimsdale Place. He died at the age of 65, and was buried at Willian, being the parish church for that part of Letchworth, on 5th January 1933. Back in Luton, Victoria survived him by nearly sixteen years.

  1. Births index, in General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration. (London: General Register Office).

    b. Charles Thomas Jakes WARREN, December Quarter 1867, Huntingdon Registration District, Volume 3b, page 255, mother's maiden name Jakes

  2. England, Huntingdonshire Parish Registers (

    ch. 14 Nov 1869, All Saints, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire: Charles Thomas Jakes / Charles & Mary Ann / Warren

  3. General Register Office. The National Archives (abbreviated TNA). England and Wales. 1871 Census Schedules. (Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom)
    Class RG10; Piece 1570; Folio 63; Page 17, 2 Apr 1871.

    Address: 184 Wellington Street, Luton, Bedfordshire
    John Warren, head, married, male, 51 [1819/20], Shoemaker (Master), b. Barton, Bedfordshire
    Charlotte Warren, wife, married, female, 52 [1818/19], Laundress, b. Barton, Bedfordshire
    Sarah Warren, daughter, unmarried, female, 20 [1850/1], Bonnet Sewer, b. Barton, Bedfordshire
    Ann Warren, daughter, unmarried, female, 19 [1851/2], Bonnet Sewer, b. Barton, Bedfordshire
    Thomas Warren, grandson, male, 3 [1867/8], Scholar, b. Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
    Sarah Ann King, lodger, unmarried, female, 22 [1848/9], Bonnet Sewer, b. Great Horwood, Buckinghamshire

  4. General Register Office. The National Archives (abbreviated TNA). 1881 Census Schedules for England and Wales, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands: . (Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom)
    Class RG11; Piece 1604; Folio 37; Page 5, 3 Apr 1881.

    Address: High Street, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
    Mary A. Warren, head, married, female, 34 [1846/7], Ag[ricultural] Lab[ourer] Wife, b. St Neots, Bedfordshire
    Thomas Warren, son, male, 13 [1867/8], Scholar, b. Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
    George Warren, son, male, 11 [1869/70], Scholar, b. Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
    Bertie Warren, son, male, 9 [1871/2], Scholar, b. Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire

  5. General Register Office. The National Archives (abbreviated TNA). 1891 Census Schedules for England and Wales, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. (Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom)
    Class RG12; Piece 1274; Folio 47; Page 14, 5 Apr 1891.

    Address: 6 Windsor Street, Luton, Bedfordshire
    4 rooms occupied
    Thomas C. Warren, head, married, male, 25 [1865/6], Engine & Machine Maker, employed, b. Huntingdon
    Victoria Warren, wife, married, female, 25 [1865/6], Straw Hat Machinist, employed, b. Ally Green, Hertfordshire
    Linley [sic] R. Warren, daughter, single, female, 3 [1887/8], b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    Annie Warren, daughter, single, female, 6mo [1890], b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    Ada S. Amos [sic], visitor, female, 9 [1881/2], b. Ally Green, Hertfordshire

  6. General Register Office. The National Archives (abbreviated TNA). England and Wales. 1901 Census Schedules: also for the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. (Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom)
    Class RG13; Piece 1493; Folio 90; Page 33, 31 Mar 1901.

    Address: 75 Marlborough Road, Bedford, Bedfordshire
    Thomas Warren, head, married, male, 33 [1867/8], Planing Machinist Iron foundry, worker, b. Huntingdon
    Victoria Warren, wife, married, female, 33 [1867/8], Straw Hat Machinist, worker, b. Aley Green, Hertfordshire
    Lily Warren, daughter, female, 13 [1887/8], Scholar, b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    George Warren, son, male, 9 [1891/2], Scholar, b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    Ethel Warren, daughter, female, 1 [1899/1900], b. Bedford
    Annie Warren, daughter, female, 10 [1890/1], b. Luton, Bedfordshire

  7. General Register Office. The National Archives (abbreviated TNA). 1911 Census Schedules for England and Wales, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. (Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom)
    Class RG14; Piece 8995; Schedule 157, 2 Apr 1911.

    Address: 9 May Street, Luton, Bedfordshire
    5 rooms occupied
    Thomas Charles Warren, husband, male, 43 [1867/8], 8 children born to marriage, 5 children still alive, Engineer Motor Works, worker, b. Huntingdon
    Victoria Elbertha Warren, wife, female, 43 [1867/8], Straw Hat Machinist, worker at home, b. Aley Green, Bedfordshire
    Lillie Warren, daughter, female, 22 [1888/9], Straw Hat Finisher, worker, b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    Annie Warren, daughter, female, 20 [1890/1], Straw Hat Machinist, worker, b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    George Warren, son, male, 19 [1891/2], Apprentice Painter, worker, b. Luton, Bedfordshire
    Eatherel Warren, daughter, female, 11 [1899/1900], b. Bedford, Bedfordshire
    Horice Warren, son, male, 6 [1904/5], b. Luton, Bedfordshire

  8.   Luton Times and Advertiser, in United Kingdom. The British Newspaper Archive
    Page 8, 20 Feb 1914.

    After Twenty-seven Years
    The story of the abrupt ending of 27 years of married "bliss" was told at the Borough Sessions on Wednesday, when THOMAS WARREN appeared to answer a charge of assaulting his wife, Victoria Bertha Warren, on Monday. The defendant, who took thinks very calmly and appeared unable to take much interest in the proceedings, said he knew nothing of the assault, and added "It is the finish of my married life."
    Mr. H.W. Lathom prosecuted, and after giving a brief outline of the case called the complainant, who said that she had been married 27 years. On Monday the defendant went out at six o'clock - she thought to go to work at Messrs. Kent's. He came back at one o'clock and was "boozed." - Mr. Lathom: That's short and expressive. - Witness continued, and said that the defendant went to the sofa and fell asleep for half-an-hour. She went on with her work, and when he woke up he said that she had got something on her mind. Someone came to the door, and the defendant said it was her "fancy man" come for her. He then struck her in the face with his fist, and also hit her on the chest. She was afraid of him when he was in drink. - When asked if he had any questions the defendant replied, "I have no questions to ask. It is the finish of my married life, and I shall not go home any more." - He was bound over in the sum of £5 to keep the peace for six months and ordered to pay 7s. 6d. costs, time being refused.

  9.   Luton Reporter, in United Kingdom. The British Newspaper Archive
    Page 7, 23 Feb 1914.

    GOING TO BE A BACHELOR.-"This has finished up my married life, and I shall never go home any more," declared a man named Thomas Warren, who is employed at Messrs. Kent's Works, when summoned at the Luton Borough Sessions, on Wednesday, for assaulting his wife, Mrs. Victoria Bertha Warren. Mr. Lathom, who appeared to prosecute, wondered whether the man was in a fit state for the case to be heard, as he appeared to have been drinking. The case was proceeded with, however, and Mrs. Warren told the Court how her husband, to whom she had been married twenty-seven years, arrived home at one o'clock last Monday, "boozed," lay on the sofa for an hour, then got up, and because his wife was not appearing very bright, the work of the morning having fatigued her, he declared that she had "something on her mind," and he was see what it was. He immediately struck his wife severe blows on the face and chest, and also on the arm, and in consequence of this conduct, Mrs. Warren declared that she was afraid of her husband when he was drunk, and she asked for the protection of the Court. The Magistrates ordered Warren to be bound over in the sum of £5, to keep the peace for six months and to pay the costs, 7s. 6d.

  10.   Luton Times and Advertiser, in United Kingdom. The British Newspaper Archive
    Page 8, 20 Mar 1914.

    Maintenance Order Made.
    At the Borough Sessions on Wednesday, Victoria Warren made an application for a maintenance order from her husband, THOMAS WARREN, on the ground of his desertion.
    Mr. H.W. Lathom appeared for the applicant, and stated that about a month ago the wife had to summon her husband for a serious assault, and at that time he said it was the end of his married life, and he would never go home again. He had not been home since.
    The defendant: What's that got to do with you?
    Mr. Lathom replied that he was paid to speak about it.
    Mrs. Warren then went into the box and bore out her advocate's statement. Her husband, she said, was earning 36s. per week.
    The defendant said the cause of the trouble was another man. He was willing to help to maintain the children. He had been home, but his wife would not have him in the house. He was willing to give her 5s. per week to maintain the two children.
    Mr. R.S. Tomson advised them to think things over and try to come together again and live peaceabley.
    An order for 7s. 6d. weekly was made.

  11.   Luton Reporter, in United Kingdom. The British Newspaper Archive
    Page 2, 24 Jun 1919.

    Adelaide-street provided a crop of five cases at Luton police court on Wednesday arising out of what the Mayor described as a very complicated row extending over the previous week-end. Mrs. Elizabeth Glennister, of No. 16, summoned Edward Elliott, shoemaker, No. 21, and his wife, Elizabeth, for the use of words calculated to cause a breach of the peace, and Harry Glennister, blocker, summoned Annie Rosson, widow, No. 15, for a similar offence, whilst Mrs. Elliott and Thomas C. Warren, who lives with Mrs. Rosson, at No. 16, charged Harry Glenister with assault. Mr. H.W. Lathom appeared for the Eliotts, and Mr. Barber for the Glennisters.
    The Elliotts' story was that while the husband was at the door on Sunday afternoon Glennister rushed from the other side, hit him in the eye, pushed the door back, walked in and picked up a chair with which he hit Mrs. Elliott across the head so violently that she bled profusely and Dr. Rose had to stitch up the wound. Thomas Warren said he saw nothing of what took place inside Elliott's house, but he heard a lot of knocking and banging about, and when Glennister came out of the house he said he had done what he had wanted to do, and did not care what happened.
    "I should not like to use the language that was used," added Warren, and there was loud laughter when Mr. R.S. Thomson remakerd, "It will take a lot shock the people here." Warren nevertheless persisted he would not use the language on any account, but he would write it down so that the magistates could read it. The Clerk asked him what the difference was, and there was another outburst of laughter when Warren replied, "Well, you might have me up for using the language here."
    The case for the Glennisters was that the trouble arose out of a pure mistake. A brother-in-law of one of the women living in the neighbourhood came home after being hosptial for some considerable time and said he was "dead beat," and "absolutely done for," and Mrs. Glennister tried to console him with the remark that he was not a cripple and could still earn his own living. Mrs. Elliott took this as a slur upon her husband, who is paralysed and unable to work and when Mrs. Glennister hear of this she endeavoured to put things right and assure them that nothing nasty was meant. So far as the Glennisters were concerned, this finished the matter, but on Saturday night the Elliotts came home absolutely drunk and squabbled with first one and then another neighbour in the yard, and when the Glennisters arrived home Mrs. Elliott set on to them with her tongue. "She was going raving mad," said Glennister. "An Irishman could not have gone madder." Eventually the police arrived, and Mrs. Ellott [sic] was forcibly put into her house. On Sunday afternoon the Glennisters were on their doorstep when Elliott came out and used abusive language. At his invitation Glennister went across and Elliott raised his crutch and twice attempted to strike Glennister. Mrs. Elliott then joined in the melee, and as a result she got a blow from her husband's Crutch that was meant for Glennister. It was absolutely denied that a chair was used.
    Sergt. Smith stated that when he arrived in Adelaide-terrace, just after Saturday midnight Elliott and his wife were sitting on the ground, the man having his arms rounds his wife, and they were calling Mrs. Glennister bad names. Both were too drunk to get up, and he lifted the up, put them in the house and shut the door.
    The Bench fined Elliott 10s. and Mrs. Elliott 15s., and dismissed the charge against Glennister of assaulting Mrs. Elliott. Warren was quite amenable to a suggestion that he and Glennister should make up their differences, and withdraw the charge of assault against him on Glennister withdrawing his charge against Mrs. Rosson.

  12. Luton Reporter, in United Kingdom. The British Newspaper Archive
    Page 4, 2 Nov 1920.

    An application was made to Luton magistrates on Saturday by Thomas Warren, an employee at the West Hydraulic Works, living in Adelaide-terrace, for a variation of a maintenance order of 7s. 6d. a week made in favour of his wife, Victoria A. Warren, 9, May-street, in March, 1914. His case was that the order was in respect of the two children until they attained the age of 16, and one was now nearly 20, and the other would be 16 in March. Owing to the depression in trade due to the coal strike, his hours of labour had been reduced to 20 hours a week, and it was impossible for him to continue the payments, as his earnings last week amounted to only 32s. 9d.
    Mr. Edwin Oakley, who presided, pointed out that 7s. 6d. in 1914 was equal to the worth of a pound to-day, and Warren replied that the same applied to him.
    In reply to further questions, he admitted he was living with another woman, and had another family to keep.
    Mrs. Warren pointed out that her husband was before the court six weeks ago for being £15 in arrears, and her 20 year old daughter was getting married directly, so that she would get no help from her.
    The Bench declined to make any alteration in the order.

  13. 13.0 13.1 Deaths index, in General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration. (London: General Register Office).

    d. Thomas Charles WARREN, March Quarter 1933, Hitchin Registration District, Volume 3a, page 1248, aged 65 [1867/8]

  14.   Burials register, in Church of England. Willian Parish Registers.
    BURIALS in the Parish of Willian in the County of Hertford in the Year 1933
    No.NameAbodeWhen buriedAgeBy whom the Ceremony was performed
    781Thomas Charles Warren30 Dimsdale Place, LetchworthJanuary 5th 193365 years [1867/8]M.S. Swatman, Rector