Person:Charles Bailey (62)

Although Charles was illegitimately born "Charles Bailey," he adopted the surname of his mom's second husband. Known on early census records as "Charles Ramsden," he later added the surname "Bailey" to be like his mother and half-sisters.

BIRTH: There was a discrepancy in dates. One family record said it was 1 Sep 1839. Another said it was 31 Aug. 1839. And another said 13 Aug 1839. None of them were right.

Copy of Civil Birth registration sent to me by Charles & Suzanne Brown <[email protected]>: "Charles was born 29 Aug 1837 at "12 night" in Mould Greave, Haworth Parish, Yorkshire, England. His name at birth was "Charles Bailey." Only a mother's name is given, and the record is signed with an X, the mark of his mother, Jane Bailey. The birth was registered in Keighley District, Vol. 23, page 172, entry 35."

Suzanne Brown also wrote (email July 2005), "Charles' age is given correctly for most records until he is 20 or so! For example, he was 3 on the June 1841 census, 13 on the March 1851 census, and 17 on the ship's roster and pioneer roster in 1855. So the discrepancy arose later and was not due to any apparent deception on the part of his parents...his half-sisters were also a year or two older than the birthdates given on their tombstones and in most family records."

BIRTH PLACE: Mould Greave was just a farm, a cluster of cottages, located about a mile from the village of Oxenhopeand a mile from the village of Haworth. Today it is considered a part of Oxenhope. Haworth itself was not a parish but a chapelry in Bradford parish. The place could be given as Mouldgreave (modern) or Mould Greave (as spelled on an 1852 map), Haworth (subdistrict), Keighley (district), Yorkshire (county), England.

AUTOBIOGRAPHY (handwritten): Special Collections Dept., Merrill Library, Utah State University, Logan, Utah

BIOGRAPHY: "Charles Ramsden Bailey: His Life & Families" by Jay L. & Betsy W. Long, Eden Hill, Midvale, Utah (1983)

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH: "Our Pioneer Heritage" compiled by Kate B. Carter (Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1958), vol. 5 p. 171 and vol.17 p.261, BYU Call No. F 826.D375x and Americana F 826.D375x.

MARRIAGE: Could also be 17 Nov 1863.

BAPTISM: Charles Bailey was baptized into the LDS Church by John Taylor. Microfilm #0027410. Wellsville Ward, Cache Stake. LDS Membership Records. pg 25. He was rebaptised and confirmed on 18 July 1875.

PRIESTHOOD: Ordained an Elder 25 Dec 1856 (source: Microfilm #0027410. Wellsville Ward, Cache Stake. LDS Membership Records. pg 25.)

IMMIGRATION TO US: Charles Ramsden Bailey came to the U.S. on the ship "Charles Buck" which departed Liverpool, England on January 17, 1855 (FHL microfilm #25690, pg 100 of ship's register) He was traveling with: Jane Ramsden [Bailey written in later], age 55; Mary A. Bailey, age 25; Sarah Bailey, age 20; Charles Ramsden [ditto on the Bailey, written in afterward], age 17 (labourer).

DEATH: Discrepancy. Could also be 19 Jan 1910.

SOURCE: Book, "Charles Ramsden Bailey" by Jay and Betsey Long (1983).

    Archibald family group records.
    Temple Index Bureau (TIB) on child, Susannah Hawkins Bailey
    Archive family group sheet submitted by Margaret B. Smurthwaite of SLC.
    Wellsville ward records, GS Film #027,410.
    GEDCOM of Charles Ramsden or Bailey and his ancestors sent to me by Suzanne Browne of Davis county, Utah.

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1. ↑ GED.

   Charles wrote in his autobiography that he was born 31 Aug 1839 in Honley, but his tombstone gives a birthdate of 1 Sep 1839. Census records indicate he was 3 years old on 6/7 June 1841, and 13 years old on 30/31 March 1851. According to the 1851 census, he was born in Haworth.

2. ↑ Birth Registry or Certificate.

   Civil Birth Registration for Charles Ramsden Bailey says Charles was born 29 Aug 1837 at "12 night" in Mould Greave, Haworth Parish, Yorkshire, England. His name at birth was "Charles Bailey." Only a mother's name is given, and the record is signed with an X, the mark of his mother, Jane Bailey. The birth was registered in Keighley District, Vol. 23, page 172, entry 35. This record was found and sent to me July 2005 from Suzanne Brown <[email protected]> Suzanne also wrote (email July 2005) "Charles' age is given correctly for most records until he is 20 or so! For example, he was 3 on the June 1841 census, 13 on the March 1851 census, and 17 on the ship's roster and pioneer roster in 1855. So the discrepancy arose later and was not due to any apparent deception on the part of his parents...his half-sisters were also a year or two older than the birthdates given on their tombstones and in most family records."

3. ↑ Tombstone inscription.
4. ↑ Tombstone inscription.

   "CHARLES R. BAILEY SEPT. 1, 1839 JAN. 16, 1910"
   On a separate marker: "FATHER"

5. ↑ Sexton records
   Utah State Historical Society, burials database.

   Wellsville Sexton records (Bailey, Charles R.; born 1 Sep 1839 in Honley, England; DIED 16 Jan 1910 in Wellsville, Utah; father Charles Ramsden; mother Jane Robbins; relative Hannah J. Bailey). Buried in plot A-26-4-1.

6. ↑ 94, Census 1851, British
   FHL film 87486 p. 117.

   Honley township, Thirstin area (Charles Ramsden, son of Charles Ramsden, male age 13, Wool Carder, born in Haworth, Yorkshire).

7. ↑ Utah Immigration Card Index, 1847-1868
   FHL film 298442.
8. ↑ Census 1860, U.S.
   Series M653 roll 1314 p. 549.

   Dwelling 1639, family 1580 (Chas. Baily, 20 years, male, born in Eng.) Living with the family of his brother-in-law Joshua Brown, his two half-sisters, and his mother.

9. ↑ Census 1870, U.S.
   Series M593 roll 1610 p. 118.

   Dwelling 139, family 132 (Charles Bailey [transcribed as Barley], age 30, white male, Farmer, owns $700 in real estate, born in England, parents foreign-born). Living with his wife Joannah and children; Susanna, Anna, and their children live nearby.

10. ↑ BLM General Land Office Records (online at www.glorecords.blm.gov/).

    Document #1012, BLM Serial #UTUTAA001251, Sale-Cash Entry.

11. ↑ Census 1880, U.S.
    FHL film 1255335 p. 178D.

    Dwelling 89, family 99 (Charles Ramsden, white male, age 40, born in England, parents born in England, farms, living with wife Hannah Ramsden and three children). Living next door to his half-sister and her husband, Joshua Brown.
    Charles was not enumerated at the home of his wife Johanna Bailey on 21 June 1880. Dwelling 5, family 6, p. 173A.

12. ↑ Census 1880, U.S.
    FHL film 1255336 p. 181B.

    Dwelling 140, family 152 (Charles Bailey, white male age 38, born in England, father born in England, mother's birthplace not given, farms, living with wife Susana Bailey and seven children).

13. ↑ BLM General Land Office Records (online at www.glorecords.blm.gov/).

    Document #3330, BLM Serial #UTUTAA001268, Homestead Entry-Adjoining.