Person:Joan de Mowbray (1)

Joan de Mowbray
d.aft 30 Nov 1402
Facts and Events
Name[1][2][3] Joan de Mowbray
Alt Name Jane de Mowbrey
Gender Female
Birth? abt 1363 Epworth, Lincolnshire, England
Marriage abt 1381 Northumberland, Englandto Thomas Grey
Death? aft 30 Nov 1402
Reference Number? Q17138647?
Marriage BEF 8 JUN 1407 to Thomas Tunstall, Knt.

Following copied from Dave Utzinger, World Connect db=utzing,,

Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons & 1 daughter

There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan, as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation of the North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filia Johannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. The visitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of the best in my opinion.

The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray's son, Henry Gray, which reads as follows: "Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hys wyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis." [Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126 footnote p].

The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.

I trust that answers your question.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

  1. Weis, Frederick Lewis; William R. Beall; and Walter Lee Sheppard. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: the barons named in the Magna Charta, 1215, and some of their descendants who settled in America during the early colonial years. (Baltimore [Maryland]: Genealogical Pub. Co., c1999), 65-7.

    Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400.

  2. Weis, Frederick Lewis; Walter Lee Sheppard; and David Faris. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists, who came to America before 1700: the lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants. (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Pub. Co., 7th Edition c1992), 223-34.

    Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark.

    Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people.

  3. Cokayne, George Edward, and Vicary Gibbs; et al. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant [2nd ed.]. (London: St. Catherine Press, 1910-59), VI:136.