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[add comment] [edit] Renaming related to Québec places [16 August 2013]1. "Quebec city" should be renamed "Ville de Québec" or "Québec (ville)" since it's a french place. 2. "Québec" (Type=Region) should be renamed "Région de Québec" or "Québec (région)" to distinguish it from the city and the province. Thanks ! --Dsavard 21:53, 30 December 2012 (EST)
I need help with put in name and taking names of.--Diann2013 10:02, 16 August 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Request to change user name [3 January 2013]Could someone do the magic needed to change my username from Robert.shaw to Robert.Shaw (I assume something special is needed to get all the contributions, watches, etc updated). Thanks. --Robert.shaw 17:52, 3 January 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Living people question [11 January 2013]The current contest has brought up this question: I know we are not supposed to add information about living people to WeRelate. What about census data from the 1940s that includes people who may or may not be still living? Of course this information is already all over the Internet including Ancestry.com. If we should not have this on WeRelate who do we contact to have the information taken down and alert the user to the rules? Thanks! --cthrnvl 21:48, 7 January 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Unable to access Sandbox for testing purposes [10 February 2013]I am new to WeRelate so thought I would import my GED file to Sandbox first but unable to access - is testing environment still available to users?--Yapper 11:36, 8 January 2013 (EST) Receive following error message when attempt to access http://sandbox.werelate.org tcp_error: A communication error occurred: "No route to host"
[add comment] [edit] Cemetery map [9 January 2013]I have an actual map of the general layout of a cemetery that I would like to add. However, cemeteries are flagged as places with longitude + latitude so not sure where or how to import my jpeg? Please advise, Laurie--Yapper 11:09, 9 January 2013 (EST)
So, I added image to existing cemetery (Holy Cross in Colma, CA) but not sure if it worked or if I did it correctly because I don't see it yet?--Yapper 14:18, 9 January 2013 (EST)
Looks great! thank you :)--Yapper 19:01, 9 January 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] GEDCOM import review problems [18 March 2013]I tried importing a GEDCOM, and got a recommendation to delete it and fix problems noted. So, I deleted it. Then, after some unsuccessful searching, I entered Help Search and tried putting in the description field for the errors, alerts, and warnings (what I am collectively calling problems) I got back. Even on the most wide open search criterion (exact, partial, and something else--can't remember), I get no results. This surprises me, as I now have no concrete idea how to correct the problems. I recommend that the folks who programmed the GEDCOM review, add something to the help about how to correct each possible problem message. Or, if only errors must be corrected to get a GEDCOM import approved, then perhaps the directions for GEDCOM import should be slightly revised to reflect this fact, and then directions on how to correct only errors is needed in help. Secondly, I would appreciate help in response to this comment, about how to fix the following problems (my comments in parentheses): - Missing gender (I can guess, but would prefer not to; some first names are not that obvious or not present or just an initial or illegible) - Child births less than nine months apart (is premature birth not allowed for?) - Birth of person occurred before marriage (really? we're calling this a problem that contributes to rejection of a GEDCOM import?) - Missing year for birth (I have the day and month, but not the year, so how do I show that?) - Surname has only one letter (the first letter of the surname is all I know) If I have missed something in the naming conventions or other sections, please let me know. I did spend quite some time looking for answers to the above, not just in help, but couldn't find anything. BTW, I don't know why this is coming up in Courier; sorry!. In the edit window, it is a proportional font. Thx--Bill 09:58, 15 January 2013 (EST) I havn't done a GEDCOM upload for quite a while, but I'll offer some things.
More generally, I would say that we know that the learning curve around here is steep. We've also found it necessary to try to push back on it being too easy to upload a GEDCOM, because of lots of folks who dump weak content and run (I still regularly find things to fix that were uploaded in 2007). If you are persuaded, like we are, that cooperative genealogy is the only way to seriously pursue this hobby, please hang in there. And keep on posting to support! We want you here and we'll try very hard to help! --jrm03063 11:05, 15 January 2013 (EST) Some miscellaneous thoughts:
--Robert.shaw 17:05, 15 January 2013 (EST)
This is great feedback; I've edited the GEDCOM help page, adding suggestions for how to address most of the warnings. Jillaine 13:01, 18 March 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Duplicate person problem [1 February 2013]Help! Can someone please sort this mess I got myself into last week. My eyes were showing their age at the time and I invented someone who wasn't there. Simon Keffer (3) with name changed to Solomon Keffer and Solomon Keffer (4) are one and the same person. All the vital information so far collected is on the Simon Keffer (3) page and I am putting off entering more. --goldenoldie 09:41, 16 January 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Adding place page for city that is in 2 counties [13 February 2013]See Place: Longview, Gregg, Texas, United States. Part of this city is in Harrison Co. TX. What is the proper method to add the place Longview, Harrison, Texas? Thanks. --Beth 18:47, 20 January 2013 (EST)
This is not a simple problem nor is the proposed solution very robust. New York City encompasses all or parts of five counties. Denver Colorado encompasses parts of three counties. There is a church in Denver that is actually in two of the three counties. It is not obvious how this notion of a "primary" county is supposed to apply in these kinds of situations, if indeed it will work at all. Who decides which is the "primary" county? Shouldn't we consider Denver, Adams, Colorado vs Denver, Arapahoe, Colorado vs Denver, Jefferson, Colorado to be three separate places? Jefferson is probably not the "primary" county but how do you choose between Adams and Arapahoe when the county line runs right through the middle of the city? Yes, I know that Denver is now administered as its own county but that was not true in 1900 - it split-off in 1902. Would you call everything for miles around Arapahoe County because the county was not subdivided until 1901? This is but one example of the problem. --Jhamstra 09:34, 13 February 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] i can not change my wifes name the name shown is no longer my wife hasnt been for 20 years [31 January 2013]--Paul d staggs II 19:09, 31 January 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] adding living persons [11 February 2013]Why can I not add living persons like myself, sister etc. What better source than 'from the horse's mouth'?--Rockdock 07:38, 11 February 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Place on "Wanted Places" does not clear [13 February 2013]In November and December I spent some time removing a series of red-lined places including Place:Ch. Of The Guardian Angels, Orillia, Ontario. It is still showing up with 62 bad links. I have just done a sample recheck of about 10 and they are all clear. What's happened? BTW, the reference has been altered to Place:Orillia, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada with Church of the Guardian Angels in the Description field.--goldenoldie 04:20, 13 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Automatic Pipe Substitutions [15 February 2013]I've noticed that some places which previously would have merited being filled in in red are now being accepted and are being filled in in black. When I switched to Edit Mode I discovered that if there are two places whose name begins the same way, the incorrect one can be given before the pipe, e.g. Place:Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada is being replaced by the Ottawa in Ohio. Similarly, if someone has used "ON", the two-letter abbreviation for Ontario, with no reference to Canada, it comes out as Place:Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, England. Should this be happening? --goldenoldie 05:49, 15 February 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Accidentally created two accounts [16 February 2013]I just signed up here, only to realise that I had made an account several years ago that I totally forgot about! They have the same email address, so I'm actually surprised I was able to create the second one. Is there some way of merging them, or deleting my new one? The user names are User:Liannelavoie (the older one, which has contributions) and User:Lianne Lavoie (which I just created today and has no contributions). I do like my new user name better, but obviously keeping the account with the contributions is better. Any help would be appreciated! Liannelavoie 14:28, 16 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Where to add sources? [24 February 2013]Is there a convention for where to add sources? Birth and death records would obviously be added to the individual that they refer to, but what about marriage records, or census records, which refer to more than one person? Do you add the source to each person, or to the family that it refers to? -- Jdfoote1 13:06, 24 February 2013 (EST)
Recently I was working with a family in which the "marrying generation" was born before vital registration started for the area in which they lived. As a result the first place to discover the birthplace of either the bride or groom was his/her marriage registration. I entered the details of the marriage registration on the family page, and added the bride and/or groom's birthplace to their page to match the registration. Then, rather than copy the marriage details again, I made a Note "birthplace from marriage registration" on the person page. These Notes work just like a regular source. It saves a lot of cumbersome copy-and-paste. For census records, I add the family listing to the page of each family member. That means that when a person marries and moves away from the family home, his/her census records from before marriage stay with him. I use Sticky Notes to hold a census transcription while I add it to each family member's record.--goldenoldie 14:35, 24 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Maps and copyrights [3 March 2013]I traced the outline and divisions from a county map, also the scale, from a map I found on the web which had a notice stating that the maps on the website were copyrighted. The text and the colouring on the completed map which I would like to upload to WeRelate are mine. Am I breaking copyright? (This was a British website, not an American one.) --goldenoldie 14:48, 3 March 2013 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Parents not showing in every view [7 March 2013]I have a problem for the page Family:Louis Lehrer and Agnes Klein (11), although their parents are connected to them and show on the right hand side on their person pages, the couple in this family do not have their parents show in the blue summary box at the top of the page for the family view.--JeffreyRLehrer 21:43, 5 March 2013 (EST)
All good thank you for that--JeffreyRLehrer 17:07, 6 March 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] County pg needs some help [17 March 2013]I don't think it looks good that the Table of Contents is below the fold on this page. Is there someway to put it at the top of the page? Place:Calhoun, West Virginia, United States I think we might be importing a bit more from wikipedia than a genealogy site needs. But I can't fix that. And how much interest is there in the population history? --janiejac 17:09, 14 March 2013 (EDT)
How does it look now? AndrewRT 09:50, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Puzzeling page [15 March 2013]I couldn't figure out why this Iowa County page was in red. Then I saw in the category list that the page was listed as an article. Is that the problem? Place:Woodbury, Iowa, United States Maybe it's just too late tonight...--janiejac 01:53, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Wikipedia sub-sections [27 March 2013]Wikipedia often has subsections under its History section. Sometimes it would be worthwhile to omit the first section dealing with the Paleolithic Era or the last section discussing news that may not be history in fifty years time. Is it possible to use the template {{Wp-nameofplace-History}} to select one or more of several sections? How do we phrase the template under those circumstances?--goldenoldie 03:51, 16 March 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Translation help [18 March 2013]I'm a newby, not sure yet where things go, so if this is out of order, shoot me down. I need someone who reads Dutch script to take a look at the PDF scan and translate the part in the middle that refers to (if I'm guessing right) Sjoukje Lieuwes Bosma. I think is says she died (maybe 19Feb1833?). If so, it make plausible that Jillert Pieters Dijkstra (Abt 1782, son of Pieter Willems Dijkstra and Japke Jelles) who married Trijntje Fokkes in 1836 (this record) is the same person as Jielles Pieters Dijkstra (same b. date, place, and parents) who married Sjouwkje Lieuwes Bosma in 1814. Any takers? Many Thanks--JDD1931 19:18, 17 March 2013 (EDT)
Beautiful! Thanks ever so much. I think it makes my case that Jielles and Jillert are the same person. The internet translators and my year of college German only go so far even with a printed transcription, the image script was just too much. Jielles and Sjoukje were my great-great-grandparents. Dave--JDD1931 04:45, 18 March 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Bug ?? in naming place [26 March 2013]I have tried to create a cemetery page for Clemtown Cemetery, Moatsville, Barbour, West Virginia, United States. The system does a search and finds nothing, so I click on 'Add page'. The resulting title comes up as Clemtown Cemetery, Moats, Barbour, West Virginia, United States. I can't get the name of the community to be Moatsville. I thought that perhaps there was a community by the name of Moats in Barbour but I didn't see it. So what is the problem and how to fix it? --janiejac 18:39, 25 March 2013 (EDT)
I renamed the Moats place to Place:Moatsville, Barbour, West Virginia, United States. Clemtown is both a cemetery and an unincorporated place in Barbour County. I redirected Place:Clemtown, Philippi, Barbour, West Virginia, United States to Place:Clemtown, Barbour, West Virginia, United States. I also made a page for Place:Clemtown Cemetery, Barbour, West Virginia, United States. --Jennifer (JBS66) 10:42, 26 March 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] why is this category red? [7 April 2013]On the Source:Harrison, West Virginia, United States. Cemeteries Grant Magisterial Dist page I just added that the location covered was Grant, Harrison, West Virginia, United States. Yesterday I had added Place:Grant, Harrison, West Virginia, United States as a District so I know it is there. So why is the category showing up red? --janiejac 11:07, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] What went wrong here [6 April 2013]Gedcom. 27 mrt 2013 Duplicate parents http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Henry_Crismore_%281%29 --Lidewij 14:34, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Place title is incorrect. How do I change my mistake? (Danford Lake, Quebec) [7 April 2013]I finally realized why a number of my birth and death "place" entries were coloured red, lol...and went to create these new places in the wiki. However, after contacting a government administrator from that region (and avid toponymist) about any older versions of the place name, I discovered my original "current" place name is incorrect. 1. I have created a We Relate "place" called "Danford Lake, Pontiac, Outaouais, Québec, Canada" [[3]] and I need to change it to "Danford Lake, Municipalité d'Alleyn-et-Cawood, MRC Pontiac, Québec, Canada". How do I do this? I don't see an option to change it under "Edit". I do not see any way to permanently delete the entry, so I assume that has to be done by someone here with more permissions on the site. 2. Danford Lake is also a "hamlet". Can I expect to find this as an option under "Type"? I originally called it "Municipality" and haven't tried to change it since. So the "Type" is also incorrect. Perhaps "hamlet" is not there but another "Type" is which means the same thing? 3. The toponymy expert and government administrator says that *"Outaouais" is a region and not part of the official name of the place. I'm not sure what I should do about that. I was going to just follow his advice and leave it out, even though you can see in Wikipedia [4] that they list Outaouais as "Region". I'm just not sure what has priority on this site, what might be considered "official" by someone such as himself, or simply that on this wiki we include all such designations whenever possible. Here is the excellent reply I got from the aforementioned administrator from the Danford Lake area. But wherever you see the word "Outaouais", he had a strikethrough over it...stating it should be omitted. So the first and most current entry would read: "Danford Lake, Municipalité d'Alleyn-et-Cawood, MRC Pontiac, Québec, Canada" BEGINNING OF REPLY////////////////////////////////// Note: ‘hameau’ is the French version of the word ‘hamlet’. Note: ‘Outaouais’ is a region, not a name with official status. So your entry should read: The official name for the hamlet/hameau of Danford Lake from 2004 to today is: Danford Lake, Municipalité d'Alleyn-et-Cawood, MRC Pontiac, *Outaouais, Québec, Canada (aka - Danford Lake, Municipality of Alleyn and Cawood, MRC Pontiac, *Outaouais, Québec, Canada) [5] [6] From 1877 - 2004 it was: Danford Lake, Municipality of the United Townships of Alleyn and Cawood, Pontiac, *Outaouais, Québec, Canada From 1868 - 1877 it was: Danford Lake, United Townships of Thorne, Cawood and Alleyn, County of Pontiac, Canada From 1860 - 1868 it was: Danford Corners, United Townships of Thorne, Cawood and Alleyn, County of Pontiac, Canada From 1830s - 1860 it was: Danford Corners, Township of Alleyn, County of Ottawa, Canada A bit confusing, but that is the nature of official toponymy (the name in documents) vs cultural toponymy (what the residents call it). //////////////////////////////////END OF REPLY
Kazabazua, La Vallée-de-la-Gatineau, *Outaouais, Québec, Canada A "village"...says Wikipedia. *sigh* lol (on this page they call it a "municipality") [9] Settled in 1835 ...more history: [10] Wakefield, Municipalité de La Pêche, *Outaouais, Québec, Canada [11] A "village"...says Wikipedia. Founded in 1830
[add comment] [edit] Changing spelling of New Netherlands [6 April 2013]I have been informed by a knowledgeable researcher of the early Dutch records in America that the correct spelling for New Netherland should not use a final s. In attempting to change the name of the following page, I learned that the page name needs to be changed by an adminstrator. Can some one please take care of that for me? Thank you. The page is: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Place:New_Netherlands--Renee Dauven 19:25, 5 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Searching on person page name content [7 April 2013]Is there a way to structure a search for items appearing in the name of a page? In particular, a Person page? In recent years, when I was adding many pages on the basis of Wikipedia biographies, there were practical reasons to name the page as it appeared on Wikipedia. Such names do not follow WR convention, in that they are usually the name by which the person was known at the end of their life, not at birth. Also, they commonly contain noble titles, honors, and year values for DOB/DOD. In most cases, the initial need for that page name has passed, and a rename will leave the original name around as a redirect anyway. So I would like to be able to perform searches for unconventionally named pages, containing items like "Sir", "Lady", "Earl", etc. What I don't want to get, is pages that are properly named, but where those items appear ON the page. I only want to get pages where those items appear in the actual page name. In this way, I would hope to start to systematically revisit pages that (usually) I created, and to rename them to follow proper convention. Thanks.... --jrm03063 14:26, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
Or, from Special Pages/All Articles this one: [13]AndrewRT 15:07, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Add a child [19 April 2013]Hello ! I am a new user and my english ist very bad. I found no help ... in the help pages or help tutorials. I want to make Person:Denis Salbreux (1) as father of Person:Augustin Salbreux (1). The form refuses to save my modifications : Denis as father, but also Augustin as son. Thanks for your explanation ! Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 11:29, 10 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Places in France [12 apr 2013]Many "place pages" have a bad information. It was automatically done by a bot. The "type" is "Unknown" Place:Guesnain, Nord, France, Place:Berlise, Aisne, France, Place:Lirac, Gard, France, Place:Chamboeuf, Côte-d'Or, France or .... "Inhabited place" but they are really "communes". Examples : Place:Brebières, Pas-de-Calais, France, Place:Bligny-sur-Ouche, Côte-d'Or, France, Place:Mâlain, Côte-d'Or, France. Other have also this extra line : "... is an inhabited place.". Examples : Place:Boves, Somme, France, Place:Sin-le-Noble, Nord, France, Place:Bergues, Nord, France, Place:Chauny, Aisne, France, Place:Brémur-et-Vaurois, Côte-d'Or, France, etc, etc. Can a bot modify ? Amicalement - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 05:06, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Search pages ... 5 stars ... why ? [11 avril 2013]What is the meaning of the 5 stars, on the right of the pages ? example. I found no explanation on this page. Thanks. Amicalement - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 09:54, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] "Type" for places [15 April 2013]moved to WeRelate talk:Place patrol [add comment] [edit] Wrapping text around an image. [13 April 2013]I have been adding maps to parish pages in Scotland. None of them fills the width of the page and there are very few cemeteries listed that might take up the right-hand side. By itself the map can often cover the bottom half of the visible screen. Readers may think there is no description other than the map, but I have plenty of Research Tips to add as well (to say nothing of a History out of Wikipedia or elsewhere). I would like to begin the text description of the parish alongside the map--right or left doesn't matter. If I continue on with text after placing the image, only one line of text gets placed beside the map and the rest is placed below. Is there a form of direction that would allow text to wrap around an image (as is done in Wikipedia)? --goldenoldie 10:15, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
Yes. Thank you. Now that I have seen how the wording in the direction goes I can arrange the pages better. I take it that forcing an image to the left works the same way? --goldenoldie 17:10, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] GEDCOM warnings [13 April 2013]I am trying to upload a tree to do with the North Ronaldshay Tullochs. This set of related families lived on a very small island in the Orkneys, north of Scotland. They made up just under 10% of the population and regularly married distant cousins who also had the same surname. In addition, there are many couples who share both the grooms and brides names - for instance there are three instances where a "Mary Tulloch" married a "Thomas Tulloch" - although when you look at the dates and the specific locations they lived in it is clear that they are three distinct couples. As a result I've ended up with a 13.1% warning level. I've been through them all and they are all valid (with the exception of some particularly young births which must be due to the under-reporting of age in a census taken when the two people concerned were quite old). At the moment, the GEDCOM is refusing to allow me to proceed to import due to the number of apparent inconsistencies that have been thrown up. Is it possible for an admin to go in and override this so that I'm able to continue with the import? Many thanks AndrewRT 18:05, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Wikipedia template [14 April 2013]Do you know why this page: Template:Wp-John_Clerk,_Lord_Eldin has taken only the first sentence from wikipedia? Has it taken it from this page instead of the current page? AndrewRT 12:37, 14 April 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Adoptive name [17 April 2013]My mother was adopted when she was 3 and thereafter, she used the last name of her adoptive parents until she was married and then she used her married name. How do I record the adoptive and birth name information on her person page. Currently, I have listed her only by her adoptive name, not her birth name.--Gsirwin 20:52, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Researching on User profile [24 April 2013]Hi all, I have looked and can't find it. How do I change the Researching interests in the box on the right hand side of my user profile page.--JeffreyRLehrer 01:24, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
Thank you Jennifer, That helped, but it has now raised further questions. I can easily see how you could write about projects on each of the relevant pages including the category pages but if we would like to list an article / project without the surname / place reference on our research list, that doesn't seem possible but maybe it is? What I am thinking is where people create an article page for a procject which doesn't relate to just one surname or specifically to a place. One example I found is a bad one because it relates specifically to a place Old Augusta Project, another one that is a better example would be Genealogy of Enslaved Communities on Drayton Family Plantations: A Research Project Sponsored by the Magnolia Plantation Foundation of Charleston, SC, because it is not specifically to a location, another non-specific location one is the Cherokee Heritage Project, and a fledgling one of my own which starts and ends in specific places but is not focused on those places is Genghis Khan 1853 Voyage to Australia. --JeffreyRLehrer 20:18, 21 April 2013 (EDT)
Thanks Andrew, I thought as much but I thought it was worth asking. [add comment] [edit] help - my grandfather's page only shows his last wife - how can I add his first wife (mother of his children and my mother and her siblings? [23 April 2013]--Judi1 21:00, 21 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Renaming place [30 May 2013]Somehow the agent has renamed the place "Rural Retreat" in Wythe, Virginia to Place:Retreat, Wythe, Virginia, United States. I saw that the other day when I created a cemetery page for that area. I do believe the proper name for the area is 'Rural Retreat' but I can't rename it because I put the cemetery as a subordinate place there. If an admin agrees with the name change, would you please do it?? I checked google and several of the persons who are linked to that page and they also use the name 'Rural Retreat'. --janiejac 21:28, 29 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Rename Adair, Oklahoma, United States [30 May 2013]I suggest you rename "Adair, Oklahoma, United States" to "Adair (County), Oklahoma, United States" in order to avoid confusion with the town of Adair, Mayes County, OK--RGMoffat 10:07, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Bigger advertising [3 June 2013]I am very disappointed. Why the right column with the advertising became so important since yesterday ? Its display area has tripled. I find it now very ugly and unbearable. Please ! Could we have the size of the display before ? Thank you ! Amicalement - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 04:36, 17 May 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Advice on cutting up huge tree for import. [30 May 2013]Hi, I have a 20,000+ person tree on Ancestry.com which I also work on with the Gramps open-source program. Clearly I don't want to upload a single gedcom in one wodge! My inclination is to use Gramps to divvy it up, mark people as uploaded in Gramps so as to keep track, and do chunks over time. I'm descended from Nathaniel Dickinson (-> Nehemiah -> Samuel) and also John Billington of Mayflower infamy, so a great deal of it is colonial Massachusetts and a bit of colonial Connecticut. You don't seem to have any of Samuel's descendents at present, and only his second wife. However, my mother's family is German-descended folks from Paterson, NJ and vicinity, and I'd like to have them up fairly fast, as she is elderly and I think would also very much enjoy seeing the various ways you folks present ancestry. So that's the starting place, I think. Thought I'd ask for help and advice, as I expect you folks have seen this before. I have this tendency to research fairly collateral relatives - - step parents' ancestry , say - - so the tree isn't as simple as it might be. Just for starters, what's a reasonable size of GEDCOM file?--Patriciajh 19:55, 19 May 2013 (EDT) Hi, I would suggest that up to 1000 is ok if you have been dilligent with your information otherwise about 500 would be a better size. To begin with try a gedcom of up to 200 and see how the werelate system works and then you will have a better idea of what it would take to import a larger gedcom. Enjoy--JeffreyRLehrer 02:06, 20 May 2013 (EDT) Thank you! I just spent a little time figuring out how to clean up Ancestry exports a bit in Gramps -- combining citations, in particular -- and a lot of time playing with the new Gramps "verify data" tool. Turns up a great many "dead mothers" and "dead fathers" -- parents who apparently died before their kids were born. Interesting to clear those up -- some are children, for example, a second wife assigned to the first wife; some are plain wrong death dates; some are Gregorian/Julian calendar confusion; some are children with an exact birth date, but parents with a vague one -- including my father's mother, who died two weeks after he was born, and he never asked about the exact date (used to fantasize she had moved to California) -- so he was born Sept 8, and she died "Sept", and shows up as a dead mother. Wouldn't suprise me if that happened a fair amount. So I wound up playing with my great-aunt Annie's husband's family as a test case, and it's now nice and clean, I hope, so here goes, Uncle Westie, Anna Gimmel, and some interesting colonial New Amsterdam heritage. I did wind up excising the Wolfart Webber scam; Uncle Westie no longer descends from William of Orange. Dear me.--patriciajh 17:22, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Naming person pages [30 May 2013]If a person Alex Bob Smith is usually known by his middle name Bob, should his person page be named Alex Smith or Bob Smith? (A well-known real-life example would be (Williard) Mitt Romney.) -- Ypnypn 20:58, 23 May 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Sources [9 June 2013]How are we supposed to add sources if we uploaded a tree as a GED file and the sources did not carry over? All 4 of the trees that I uploaded had sources attached to them but when they uploaded the sources were not carried over then another member went through my trees and made changes without my authorization and stating that I had "no sources" which is not true. Now all of my data that I have spent years collecting, researching and SOURCING has been changed. I don't really understand how any member can make unauthorized changes to someone else's data without the tree owner's approval. Additionally, some of our families have kept family bible that have extensive records in them that no one else may have access to...--LEnde1018 00:20, 9 June 2013 (EDT) I'm just another user, so these are not "official" statements, and I may stand to be corrected. First, WeRelate is about collaborative research, so no one "owns" a person page. If you are registered to "watch" a page (automatic if you created the page), you will be notified whenever someone makes an addition or change. Where there are conflicts in the data, the users can use the talk page to understand each other's sources, and perhaps come to a consensus. You can also include alternate dates, etc. so that other researchers know when sources do not agree. Second, regarding sources not getting uploaded. I have experienced this myself, and it is not a WeRelate issue, but an issue with the way I exported the data to create a GED file. If you use a text editor to review the GED you created, you should see lines with an SOUR tag. These are your sources. If there are no SOUR tags in the GED, try changing settings from your program until sources are exported. Another way to recognize the problem is once the GED file is uploaded and you are in the review process. If the Sources tab has no data, then none were uploaded. When this happens to me, I delete the file and start over. When I begin to review a newly uploaded file, I have found it pays to quickly review all of the tabs to ensure they contain data, before working thru each one sequentially. It is a real pain to fix all of the places (match them to existing WeRelate places) only to find I have to delete the file and start over. It is also worth the effort to match places, sources and families during the review process, so that you do not have as many manual changes to make on each person and family page after you complete the upload. And yes, I do review each page after I upload them because my program does no map data to the fields I think should be used. If I have done the work up front during the review process, then final clean up of each page goes very quickly. My program does allow me to flag records I have selected for export, so that I have a working list for this manual review. When I have completed the upload, review, import and manual review process, I can then sit back and wait for a fellow researcher to "find" my pages and make their own contributions to them. Where does this leave you with the "sourceless" pages? You can generate a new GED file that does include the SOUR tags, and upload it. You will then need to merge the new data to the existing person and family pages. Experiment with a small number of these so that you understand the merge process. You can deselect data from either the person page or the new upload so that it is not included in the updated page. This will prevent two of everything being created. For example, where a data element is exactly the same, such as a name of date, keep the new one you upload because it will include your source. You can deselect the original field that had no source. If the original already has a source, play around to understand how to keep both of them. You don't want to delete someone else's source, you just want to add your sources to the documentation for the page. Sorry this is so long. Don't be discouraged by the learning curve. I have invested a lot of time in uploading thousands of person pages, and would do it again. However, I continue to find ways to make the process go faster. It is worth the effort.--RGMoffat 01:15, 9 June 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] list of alternate spellings of names [9 October 2013]Where is Dallan's list of alternate spellings of names? I need to add some alt spellings. I understand if they are added to the that list, the search engine will find the right page even if all the alt spellings aren't on the person's page. --janiejac 12:31, 18 June 2013 (EDT) http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Special:Names JeffreyRLehrer 19:09, 18 June 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Naming Convention [22 June 2013]What's preferred -- Abraham van der Meulen OR Abraham Van der Meulen OR Abraham Van Der Meulen? Thanks!--Frank 16:53, 22 June 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Sub-catagories not showing on Category page [6 July 2013]I have created a number of categories pages for counties in Ontario, Canada, but they do not show up on the "Category:Ontario, Canada" page. My most recent addition was "Category:Renfrew, Ontario, Canada" I have reviewed in edit mode the sub-categories that do show up and cannot see where the problem is. What am I missing?--RGMoffat 17:43, 5 July 2013 (EDT)
Go figure! I expected all sub-categories to be listed on the first page, before the Places. There are three of them there. Obviously, they all occur alphabetically before "P." Maybe this can be added to a wish list somewhere along the line. Thank you for responding. I had left an earlier note (last year) on a different talk page, but it was never answered. I need to remember to use the support page in the future.--RGMoffat 09:52, 6 July 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Clean-up of Cemetery Name Variants [15 July 2013]During my earlier data uploads, I used cemetery names as found in various sources. I have now confirmed that the following are all the same cemetery: < nowiki >Place:Country Cemetery, Georgetown, Miller, Dearborn, Indiana, United States< nowiki > < nowiki >Place:Georgetown Cemetery, Georgetown, Miller, Dearborn, Indiana, United States< nowiki > < nowiki >Place:Georgetown Cemetery, Dearborn, Indiana, United States< nowiki > I have re-linked person pages to the last entry in the above list. Please delete the first two place pages so that they do not get used in the future. In addition, when I created a place page for the historical community of Georgetown, I included the township name (Miller) in the place name. I realize this is non-standard, but I cannot rename the page because of existing links. Can an admin do this? Sorry to cause extra work. Rick Moffat--RGMoffat 17:51, 15 July 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] More than 24 hours has passed and still no GEDCOM review [17 July 2013]Is there a delay in this process? This is my first import and I have yet 3 more to do. Also is there any reason why you cannot continue to upload multiple GEDCOM rather than wait for the previous import to be reviewed?--Plapic 18:53, 16 July 2013 (EDT) I noticed the WeRelate server was very slow yesterday. That could be the problem. Just another WR user. --Goldenoldie 04:55, 17 July 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Handling Unwed Mothers [17 July 2013]My grandfather never knew who his father was, so what's the best way of linking him to his mother. I feel like I shouldn't add a family record since there is no husband/father, but it seems that it's the only way to link him to his mother. (Although, I am new here and haven't quite worked out even all the simple details.)--Artbasement 14:09, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Request - re-locate Hollywood [21 July 2013]Hello. I would like to see Place:Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, United States moved to Place:Hollywood, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States as Hollywood is a district within the city of Los Angeles, rather than just an unknown location type in the county of Los Angeles. Thanks for your help. I found I could not rename as there are subordinate pages. --ceyockey 11:29, 21 July 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Project pages - researching an individual [29 July 2013]I saw the video and it mentioned setting up project pages. I have a research problem of trying to sorting out the identities of two men named James Behan to determine if they are in fact the same man. Another person is working with me on the project and we hope to get other descendants involved. I'd like to upload documents, images, notes, etc that would help us all analyze the problem. Is a project page the way to do this? If we have death certificates, census records, immigration records and the like, what is the best way to upload those? I'm confused by the choices on the Add dropdown because it seems to relate more to books, etc when asking for description of the object. Thanks for your help.--karen1 16:06, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Please delete Dup [1 August 2013]Can you please the following page. My Stupid Browse keep crashing leading me to think that the source was not add Source:Prowell, George Reeser. History of York County Pennsylvania (Volume II)
thanks...--Myfamilytree 09:42, 1 August 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Help on new pages [1 August 2013]I am currently working on a set of families that lived on the remote island of North Ronaldshay, in the Orkneys, North Scotland. One of the key "signposts" that has emerged in this research is the role played by the "Houses" on the island. These often held multiple families, were passed down the generations and were often included in the genealogical records. They also became a key way of identifying people, who often shared the same forename and surname - for instance, Thomas Tulloch was called "Tommy Garso", because he lived in a house called "Garso". I would like to create a page or a set of pages that links together the information about the individual houses so that they can be used to trace the families through time. The first idea I had was to set them up as "Place" pages although I note that the policy seems to discourage this. The alternative seems to be in the general namespace which, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't have any particular rules about what should or shouldn't be created there. Please could someone advise - where would be the right place to create this page? Thanks AndrewRT 18:13, 29 July 2013 (EDT) I have the same problem currently in Southwest Scotland--Galloway to be exact. My own family lived in the main farmhouse of a farm named Auchenlosh, but the 1841 census indicates there were 10 other cottages there all housing farm workders. That adds up to a community of a comparible size to what might be called a hamlet in rural parts of the United States and Canada. And yet, I also hesitate to give the farm a placename. I intend to write an Article about this particular farm because (1) people in the cottages are bound to be related as in-laws and cousins, and (2) I own its 18th century rent book. The parish, and all the parishes around, hold plenty of farms like these. It's an interesting situation, probably based on a need for many hands, leftover from feudal times, and which didn't end until the invention of the tractor. --Goldenoldie 07:26, 1 August 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] auto suggestions and recently used sources - not working? (reposted from Watercooler) [6 August 2013](reposted from WaterCooler) One very nice thing about this site is the suggestions for place names - to conform to the site to the same standard. This as well as the recently used source, which is nice for when you are using the same source over and over again. I tried 3 different browsers and I still have the same issue. I don't understand how a browser could affect the recently used source option. The auto suggestion feature is working about 25% of the time for me. I'd like to hear from Dallan or one of the admins as to what might be causing this...it's driving me up the wall. I must note that I am a Linux user, which has never been a problem with the site performance or any form until the last week and a half or so. Daniel Maxwell 06:45, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Place page showing map location incorrectly [2 August 2013]For some reason, the Google map embedded in this place page Place:Grantsville, Calhoun, West Virginia, United States is showing a different location. The coordinates in the place page are correct, but the map is showing coordinates for a different place (a few miles away). I don't see any way that I can fix this by editing the page.--DataAnalyst 19:08, 2 August 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Table -- varying data between one place and another [15 August 2013]I have worked out a table that I could use to give specific bits of information about one place. Could I adopt it as a template to use in a series of places for which the same types of information could be provided? The first two columns of the table are permanent, the third column contains the variables. The table can currently be found at Template:Buckinghamshire unions of parishes. If it is possible to make a variable table, are these instructions in Help, anywhere? --Goldenoldie 06:47, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
I had a good look at the example and, as you expected, I was stymied by the complexity. What I was hoping for was a uniform template in the form of a table in which I could fill in the blanks (=variables/parameters) in the third columns. It would have been an expanded form of the See Also box. I have now replanned my basic idea for presenting Buckinghamshire and added pages for the county divisions named "hundreds". I didn't know "hundred" was in the WR list of types of places until this afternoon. There are many English counties where this division was commonly used up to the early 19th century and someone is bound to need it sometime. By adding place pages for the "rural districts" and "urban districts" as well, I should be able to put all the information on a parish's membership in administrative areas in the See Also box. Thanks for your help. --Goldenoldie 14:16, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] need help with template [1 September 2013]The template that has been posted on Henry Leonard's page is too wide. It causes all info to fall 'below the fold' and at first glance, the page appears to have nothing on it. Can someone please make the template more narrow so it doesn't fall under the family info?--janiejac 16:36, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Fixing Gotland place names [2 October 2013]I've noticed that the placenames in Gotland, Sweden all use the format of "Somewhere, Gotlands, Gotland, Sweden". This is incorrect, there is not place called "Gotlands", and "Gotland" and "Gotland" is of course the same place. It should be "Somewhere, Gotland, Sweden". This differs from general Swedish place names because the Municipality, County and Region are all the same thing. However, fixing this seems complicated, for reasons of consistency. I can for example not rename "Parish, Gotlands, Gotland, Sweden" if it contains places. But I also can't move the places it contains to "Farm, Parish, Gotland, Sweden", because "Paris, Gotland Sweden" does not yet exist. So I think I would have to first create a new "Parish, Gotland, Sweden", then move the places within, then redirect the old Parish. This is doable, but I'm wondering if there possibly can be an easier way? Because that will take a *long* time to do. --Regebro 22:02, 6 September 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Problem with embedded URLs [2 October 2013]If I paste [14] into a Text field of a Reference the URL links correctly. However if I paste the same link into a Title field of a Reference it breaks. --Jhamstra 09:40, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
Thanks Jennifer. Unfortunately there is still a problem with the display when I do this. Now the URL does not break but the entire URL displays rather than a "numbered square-arrow link icon" as I get elsewhere. Look at the results of Reference 6 (without nowiki brackets but no embedded spaces in URL) vs Reference 7 (with nowiki brackets to avoid beaking URL with embedded spaces) in this family. You might want to go to the associated Talk page to see why I am updating this Family 8-). --Jhamstra 08:45, 8 September 2013 (EDT)
One of the symptoms of this problem is that the inline editor seems to be replacing each embedded %20 in the Title field with a space before storing it. So it displays as %20 before I click Save but displays as a space if I click Edit again. I have no way of telling whether this is a WeRelate or MediaWiki problem or if it is a Firefox problem. However since Firefox seems to have no problems editing the correct result into text boxes including this one, I suspect the problem lies elsewhere ie something that filters the Title field when it is being saved. At this point I have tried each of the following (sans nowiki and quotes) without success: "An American Family History - The Bonham, Fuller and Lothrop Families [http://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Family%20Indexes/Bonham%20Index.html]" "[An American Family History - The Bonham, Fuller and Lothrop Families http://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Family%20Indexes/Bonham%20Index.html]" "[http://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Family%20Indexes/Bonham%20Index.html An American Family History - The Bonham, Fuller and Lothrop Families]" So if this is working correctly for you people who are trying to help me, then could you tell me what browser (name and release level) you are using? And exactly what character string you entered? --Jhamstra 00:47, 9 September 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Having trouble adding image to profile page [8 September 2013]How do I attach the image I uploaded to my profile page?--Tammyhensel 16:05, 8 September 2013 (EDT)
Thank you very much.--Tammyhensel 16:41, 8 September 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Need advice on whether I can post a photograph [11 September 2013]Can I upload a digital copy of the photo found at http://www.ohiomemory.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p267401coll36/id/6489/rec/1279 to werelate.org if so, how do I fill out the copyright information My grandfather is in the photo.--Charlie s 14:44, 11 September 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Live People [12 September 2013]Is there a reason Live people cant be added to a family if I do a Gedcom upload--Jbtabb 17:47, 11 September 2013 (EDT)
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