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The discussion on this page is generally obsolete. Please refer to Help:Guidelines for use of Wikipedia for up to date information.--Dallan 15:59, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Wikipedia references on "place" pages[add comment] [edit] Queries that started the discussionThe Bowling Green page says this (as I'm sure thousands of other pages do and more will) near the top:
But near the bottom it has the standard detailed WP acknowledgment giving links to the WP page and its history. I suggest that the first one is now superfluous. If it's done programmatically (which I presume it is), maybe it should be removed from the program as long as the program has the provision for adding the detailed notice. There's also a question about the wording. As soon as anyone edits the top paragraph/section, the "the text in this section is copied from" part of the notice that precedes it will be wrong. If keeping that short notice, please change its wording to something like how the long one starts: "This page uses content from ". Robin Patterson 17:35, 2 November 2006 (MST) [add comment] [edit] ExplanationThe phrase "the text in this section is copied from an article in Wikipedia" comes from a "copy-wikipedia" template. It means to say that the text under the particular (level 2) section heading, or the introductory text before any section heading, is copied from wikipedia. When an article has multiple sections, like Place:Illinois, only sections where the text comes from Wikipedia contain the phrase. If someone changes the text in a "wikipedia" section, there are instructions in a comment asking them to change the "copy-wikipedia" template to "source-wikipedia" (for the introductory section), or to remove the "copy-wikipedia" template (for the other sections). I agree that this is not very intuitive. The "copy-wikipedia" templates are necessary for two things:
I'm reluctant to remove them since our updating program depends upon them, but I agree that the templates could be re-worded. Given the above information on the purposes of the "copy-wikipedia" template, any suggestions for better wording?--Dallan 16:30, 4 November 2006 (MST)
[add comment] [edit] Response from initiator (same day)OK, thanks, I've now looked at Place:Illinois and seen the precautionary notices. great idea in principle, as long as that sort of comment/warning is on every page that's subject to automatic periodic updating.
[add comment] [edit] Continuing dialogueI worry about this as well. A wikipedia-copied section can be either (a) the introductory text before the first section heading, or (b) everything below a level-2 section heading until the next level-2 section heading. I think that the history information from Wikipedia is helpful/interesting, but I worry that people will not understand that their edits will be lost if they edit the wikipedia sections and don't change/remove the templates. I can think of three possible solutions. Maybe there are others?
--Dallan 22:00, 6 November 2006 (MST) [add comment] [edit] UsageHow does this work? I would like to put some Wikipedia text on a Person page I've made. How do I go about doing that? --Joeljkp 16:32, 7 December 2006 (MST) [add comment] [edit] Current approachIf you want to copy wikipedia text and place it in your page, you need to include a {{wikipedia-notice|title of wikipedia article}} template at the bottom of the page so that we can give proper attribution to Wikipedia. If you copy over an entire section of a wikipedia article, and you want that section to be updated every 3-6 months with the latest content from Wikipedia, in addition to including the {{wikipedia-notice}} template at the bottom of the article, you also need to:
In the past, we included the wikipedia text inline into place pages, but this caused confusion. We're now in the process of creating separate templates for the wikipedia text. We've done this for all US and Canadian place pages, and we hope to have the rest of the places finished by end of January. Unfortunately, you can't copy wikipedia text into Person and Family pages because we dual-license those pages under GFDL and CC-BY-SA, and wikipedia articles are licensed only under GFDL. (See WeRelate:Licensing and its talk page for a discussion in this area.)
--Dallan 12:21, 10 December 2006 (MST) |