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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [18 August 2015]

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Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

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--WeRelate agent 21:24, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Please check warnings tab [21 August 2015]

Hello and welcome to WeRelate. Thank you for submitting your gedcom file. I am afraid that there is a problem. WeRelate is based on a shared database and creates a web page for each person. Before your gedcom can be added to the community database, obvious errors need to be corrected. We realize that sometime older people have children and sometimes children are born close together or before marriage. However, this is not generally the case. Our system has checked your gedcom for possible errors. Please check the warnings tab and delete or correct erroneous information. Then, resubmit. Thank you, --sq 09:05, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


What is the problem? As I said in the posting I put on the topic board right now, the procedure for updating the file is confusing at best. I made corrections yesterday, but the old listing is still the same. If you need to have me make changes, let me know what they are with a new list with a date attached so I don't redo the thing over again which is a waste of my time as well as being very frustrating.--Wcoup 14:29, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


WCoup, have you viewed the "Getting Started Videos?". They might help you in the Gedcom review process. There are also other tutorials and information available in the Help Section. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Jim


Removal of information on Person Page [21 August 2015]

Hello, I noticed that in your recent Gedcom upload, that you have erased/deleted information and records on the Person Pages of Robert Kirkham and Charles Bond. Since there are several researchers working on a Project in Virginia documenting persons and records of many Virginia settlers, we would respectfully ask that you DO NOT DELETE any such information and records from a Person Page when you upload your Gedcoms. You are free to ADD information, documentation, records and narrative on a Person Page that adds to information on that Person, but please be respectful of the work done by others when adding information either through Gedcoms or manually on Person or Family Pages.

I have reverted the Person Pages of Robert Kirkham and Charles Bond to their original condition before your Gedcom upload. Feel free to add your information to his page.

Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,

Jim Volunteer Administrator - WeRelate--Delijim 15:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


Additional information on your Gedcom [22 August 2015]

Hello, I have looked into your Gedcom and here are my findings and recommendations:

1. First of all, I'd highly recommend that you break your Gedcoms up into specific families (separate Gedcoms) and import each (smaller) Gedcom separately instead of trying to import one large gedcom at one time, for this reason: it is easier to review, correct (if necessary) and import smaller gedcoms, and takes far less time to complete and upload.
Note: Unfortunately over the past years, we've had many experiences in the past on this site where submitters have uploaded large Gedcoms (some of which were very poorly researched or sourced) that had to be either "cleaned up" or later deleted by the Volunteer Administrators, so we encourage uploading smaller, higher-quality (researched and sourced) Gedcoms, which add to the quality of research and documentation on WeRelate.
2. In the Gedcom review process, on the "Match Families" tab, you need to be careful NOT to uncheck the box which shows the existing information on a Person Page, which you apparently did inadvertently when you were reviewing some of the families on the "Match Families" tab. I did see that you had already accepted the families which included Robert Kirkham and Charles Bond, and the only way that their existing information can be over-written in the Gedcom Review process is by unchecking that box. I've included an image below showing exactly which box needs to be left "as is" in order to keep the existing (prior) information on a Person Page:

Image:Gedcom Review.gif

Your information on the Gedcom can be "added to" the Person Pages by checking the individual boxes on the LEFT SIDE of the "Matched Families" tab, which shows the information to be added from your Gedcom. Otherwise, your information will not show on the Person Page after your Gedcom is completed and uploaded.

In addition, I'd highly recommend that you view the tutorial videos which help walk you through the process and make sure you are adding your information correctly. Once you get the hang of things, you'll find the process much easier to upload, review and complete.

BTW - your Gedcom was still in "Uploader Review" status and there were several warnings that needed to be reviewed as well as several Person and Family Matches that needed to be reviewed, corrected and accepted. I went ahead and reviewed the rest of your Gedcom and submitted it for final approval. Again, by uploading smaller gedcoms, this process will be easier for you in the future.

Hope this helps, best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 14:31, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


harper_2015-03-22_01.ged Imported Successfully [22 August 2015]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.


--WeRelate agent 16:11, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Your questions [23 August 2015]

As best I can, here are the answers to your questions:

I have reviewed the changes you have made and am impressed with what you have done. Thank you. I have been told by one of you that sending smaller GEDCOMs is better. What is the most usable size you want; i.e. how many generations? What I have sent you is only half of my ancestry and I want to send the rest the most useful size possible.

I'd break them up into your primary families that you've researched, are well documented and sourced the most in your lineage, then you can "fill in" the rest manually. About 4-5 Generations would likely be the largest I'd recommend, anything more than that would likely cause several "overlaps" with other subsequent Gedcoms, and require more reviews of "matching families"

Richard Davis and Isabella Davis (1) updated 22 August at 15:06. Richard is listed twice; the information is identical. Why is he listed twice? The other one is mainly a question.

Sometimes people have two identical persons in their Gedcoms, so WeRelate will create the same persons in the Gedcom upload unless it's corrected and re-loaded. I've merged the two Richard Davis' into this one: Richard Davis. You can do the same thing with your duplicates by clicking the drop-down box at the top named "My Relate", the 6th Drop-down is "Show Duplicates", which will list what WeRelate "thinks" might be duplicate persons. As you compare them, if they are clearly the same person, they should be merged into the Person with the lowest number (For instance if Richard Davis (56) and Richard Davis (53) are the same Person, they should be merged into Richard Davis (53) and both sets of information can be saved).

The family of John White and Mildred T. Ballinger, updated 22 August at 15:00 shows Eliza Johnson White listed twice, first as Eliza Johnson White and secondly as Eliza Johnson White II, both with the same birth and death dates. Do we delete one of them or just leave it alone?

Same answer on this one, apparently your gedcom included two identical Eliza Johnson Whites, one without her husband, and one with. I've merged them both into Eliza White.

The same goes for one of the sources; White Family Bible. There is only one with the information in it. The same question. Delete or leave alone? Thank you for your patience. I will try to do better in the future.

Sources are a little trickier, you can't "merge" sources, so it's best to just delete the ones that are "orphaned" and re-add the existing source so we don't end up with multiple pages for the same exact source. As I indicated in my previous post, I would highly recommend viewing the tutorial videos and reading some of the "Help Menu" at the top right, it will make your experience here much better if you spend a little time learning the ropes.

Best regards,

Jim:)--Delijim 13:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 August 2015]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded Coup Family 2008 4 gen (1)_2015-08-24.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.


--WeRelate agent 05:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Coup Family 2008 4 gen (1)_2015-08-24.ged Imported Successfully [25 August 2015]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.


--WeRelate agent 20:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Two different Arthur Gable and Ann Miller marriages. [1 September 2015]

Hi, Wcoup,

You seem to have two different Arthur Gables marrying Ann Miller on the same day, neither of whom seems to fit the actual marriage record. You have Arthur Gable who was born about 1858 marrying Ann Miller on 24 Jan 1903 (see Family:Arthur Gable and Anna Miller (1)).
You also have Arthur Gable, born December 1870 marrying Ann Miller on the same day, 24 Jan 1903 (see Family:Arthur Gable and Anna Miller (2).

The computer tends to get unhappy when something like this happens, as it sees this as a probable duplicate record. Even without the computer getting unhappy, though, it's a good idea to resolve what does, indeed, look like a problem in the information. I looked for a marriage record in Pennsylvania for an Arthur Gable and Ann Miller to see if that would help. I did find a marriage record for an Arthur Gable who married an Anna Miller on 24 January 1903, in Crawford County, Pennsylvania, but according to the marriage license, that Arthur Gable was born September 1872. So the problem is even more confused at this point.

One thing I did notice in your source citations is that you don't have any information for either of your Arthur Gables for 1900. You do, however, have a 1920 Census record for the Arthur Gable who was born in 1858, and according to that record, he was still married to his first wife, Elizabeth. I hesitate to try to clean up this problem, as I don't have access to some of the sources you have cited. Could sort it out, please? Thanks, Gayel --GayelKnott 00:58, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


I am just as confused as you are about the two Arthur Gables. One has a source of Margaret Stainbrook in her book about the Stainbrook family and marrying an Anna Miller and the other by Davidson in her book about the Frankenfield family having also married an Anna Keller, both on the same date. They are cousins, sons of brothers, but I must admit I don't have a clue about how to solve this. I am puzzled that you stated that you don't find a source for either when they both cite specific books. I must admit that I have done more research, though not as much as needed, on Charles Gable's line since that is my ancestral line. I would suggest that further research needs to be done on both Arthurs lines on their pages and I will try to clear this up when I can.--Wcoup 19:15, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Wcoup. I did see the sources you cited. However, I don't have access to them so I can't check them for myself. And as I said, I did find a marriage record for an Arthur Gable and Ann Miller on the date you cited, but it gives a different birth year for Arthur Gable than the one you have. This is why it's usually better to use compiled genealogies as clues and try to find the original record yourself, to make sure that everything is correct. It may be that this is the correct Arthur Gable, but there is a problem, somewhere, regarding his date of birth. But that is research I'll leave to you. Gayel --GayelKnott 04:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I think I have solved the Arthur E. Gable and Anna Miller problem. In 1920 he was shown married to Elizabeth in Venango County, Pennsylvania. An Arthur Gable married Ann Miller in 1903. I found an Application for Marriage Certificate image on Ancestry.com. It is for Arthur E. Gable, Veterinary Surgeon and Elizabeth Murphy in Venango County, Pennsylvania 5 March 1890 with his parents given as Charles and Nancy Gable. So, I have removed the marriage of Anna Miller and Arthur E. Gable from my file and left the other Arthur Gable and Ann Miller intact for the other Gable. Also, on Family Search I found a daughter for Arthur and Elizabeth Gable, Alice Ann Gable, born 15 September 1894 in Crawford County, Pennsylvania, source "Pennsylvania, Births and Christenings, 1709-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2N4-BWB : accessed 31 August 2015), Arthur E. Gable in entry for Alice Ann Gable, 15 Sep 1894; Birth, citing Crawford, Pennsylvania; FHL microfilm 910,237. I thin this clears up the Arthur Gable and Ann Miller problem. It is obvious that the Davidson source is wrong. Unfortunately, she is deceased and cannot correct her record in the book.--Wcoup 20:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for checking these, Wcoup. I'm not sure where you removed the marriage of Anna Miller and Arthur E. Gable. It wasn't for their page on WeRelate. However, I went ahead and removed it from the WeRelate page, as I agree that it is not correct.
I'm wondering, since you speak of "my file" (meaning a file that belongs to you), if you understand that pages on WeRelate do not belong to any one researcher. The whole idea of WeRelate is to have one page, and only one page, for any particular ancestor, and all people who are researching that ancestor add their information to the same page. In this case, I am wondering if you think that uploading a GedCom means that your file syncs with a WeRelate file? That is what Ancestry.com does with their Family Treemaker, I know, but that is not how WeRelate works. When you upload a Gedcom, your information should be merged with any other existing pages. It there is no existing page for a particular ancestor, then a new page is created, but it does not sync back with your original program once the information is completely uploaded.
If you are not sure how WeRelate works, you might want to look at the What is WeRelate video.(I'm not at home and can't actually access the video, but hopefully it will explain WeRelate better than I have.) You might also want to have a look at the FAQ pages, as these may also help to understand how WeRelate works.
Hope this helps. Gayel--GayelKnott 04:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

By my file I meant my Family Tree Maker on my computer. I think maybe in the future it might be better if I delete the file, make the changes, and then resubmit for sticky problems like these. Is this the right way to do it? That way the WeRelate file will not have my wrong information to possibly mislead someone else. On my Family Tree Maker File I deleted the Anna Miller from Arthur E. Gable as well as that marriage in their record. The marriage for the other Arthur Gable remains with the same date as the other marriage.--Wcoup 13:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Wcoup,
This is why I suggested you look at the video and FAQ about how WeRelate works. Of course, you want to make the changes on your Family Tree Maker File, but that does not make any changes on WeRelate. Once you have uploaded a file to WeRelate, all the changes to the WeRelate information have to be made on WeRelate. That includes the information that is part of the Gedcom that needs to be reviewed. You have to make those changes on WeRelate, not on your Family Tree Maker file. As I said, Family Tree Maker is NOT synched to WeRelate. Once your information is fully uploaded to WeRelate, it remains there, and can be edited without having to delete anything.
This would be true of any wiki site, not just WeRelate. No one person "owns" a page on a wiki site, so there is no way that the information on the wiki site can be synched with individual computers.
Again, I would really encourage you to look at the videos and the FAQ. This may help understand how the site works. It really is a great way for two or more people to work together.

Gayel GayelKnott 19:45, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [31 August 2015]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded Coup FGable Family 2008_2015-08-31.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.


--WeRelate agent 18:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I have finished reviewing the warnings and, except for the questions about the two Arthur's, feel it should be ready to continue the process.--Wcoup 19:17, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


gedcom import [21 February 2016]

Hi,

I am not sure if this is still relevant, your gedcom upload from last August is still sitting awaiting your review/request to upload, I am currently deleting all old files that have not been worked on for 6 months and wanted to check whether you intend to upload this or not before I delete it. Your last post seems to indicate you think it is ready to import.

As it stands there are to many problems I think, lots of places on the places page are not places but some are linked to places, sources do not seem to be linked to existing sources and there are a large number of duplicate families that have not been checked. Reading earlier comments it seems you had some difficulty with 'the WeRelate way' so if I can help please ask me. If I do not hear anything the gedcom will be deleted at the end of this month.Rhian 09:57, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


I apologize for dropping the ball. I have two problems; I have been doing genealogy for over 50 years and apparently think I know how to do things right without paying proper attention to how you do things; I am wrong. So can we work together and straighten my mess out? You should know something aabout me. I have been fighting cancer for almost three years with good and bad results. The point being that there may be times when I won't reply to you promptly sometimes. Please be patient with me.

Now, where should we start? You are the expert with your program and I will follow you lead.

While I wait for your reply, I will start watching your videos.--Wcoup 21:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

I fully realise that life gets in the way at times, and with 50 years of research you can rightly claim to know more than many people, I have only 40 years and it has taken me time to adjust in the first place to computer genealogy and in the last 5 years to shared online genealogy.
Perhaps the first important things to know about WeRelate is once pages are added for people or families they are freely editable by any other member, you no longer 'own' the data. This has many advantages, family members can add facts you were not aware of, even unrelated (for now) people might be attracted to the research and offer help and also your work is being preserved for future generations. There are of course drawbacks, many people do no like to let go of their work and are not always good collaborators and in order to make life easier for everyone we try to stick to some standard procedures.
Apart from the rule that there is only one page for each person the main standards are place names and sources, we try not to use abbreviations in place names, most Americans use two letters for states which mean nothing to many other people or actually mean something else in other countries. We have a large database of world places and encourage people to link their place names to the existing database this give a link to background information on the places your ancestors live. Of far more importance to many researchers but often forgotten by new members are sources, without sources all research is just rumour. Many accepted sources have pages in our database from US census records or UK vital records or church records, academic books etc. by linking any citations in your research to one of these sources people can see where they can find the record set and from the citation the exact record. For example you may give a citation to a specific US census page, the source linked to should be the county set for that year which will list places where you can see the record, whether free or pay websites of family history films. There will of course be things that are not so public, like family bibles for example, these can be added as sources under the My Source or just citation entries.
Checking the tutorials is probably a good place to start, I prefer written ones to video ones but that is just me. Any questions that arise I will try to answer, or find someone who knows more than me. I will try and have a proper look at your gedcom today and see what we can do constructively. If you would prefer to carry on this discussion by email the I an quite happy to do that, on the left side bar of my user page there is a more link which will give you an option to email me.Rhian 09:18, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Okay, now I am really confused. As I understand your rules, I am not supposed to make changes on the page but add new information only. Going tab by tab on my GEDCOM. All of the people on my warnings tabs result from things like census records where wives surnames are not shown and so there will be only a given name and I do not have their surnames from any other source and have not pursued it any further. The same goes for the people tab. They are usually children listed in census records that are siblings of my direct relation. It seems to me that they would be useful for others that will tie into someone else's lie and furnish those individuals information on that line going back. The families tab applies the same way. The places tab. As you can see, I have often entered things such as hospitals, addresses and other items in my file. Do you want me to correct each place to the standard genealogical format? [Which I feel is not definitive enough]. I can do that, but it appears to violate your "do not change" rule. The sources tab, as a rule, I always make my sources as complete as possible. I notice that sources such as letters between individuals are not verifiable by you since they are in my personal files. I am guessing that they fall under Myfile. I notice that the list under the Family Matches Tab there are no matches shown which indicates that they are unique and don't match any other families in the WeRelate files.

Am I correct in assuming that information on the pages in red indicates incorrect format in some way? I particularly notice that many of my census sources appear to be that way. Do they need to be changed?

I recognize that I may be a pain in the neck, but I want to get it right. My intention is to get this right and then submit other GEDCOMS that have been corrected already and save everyone a problem in the future.

One other ting. I have done a search on some of my other ancestors and found some real errors in the information on some of them. One in particular is for Colonel William Crawford and his wife Hannah Vance. They could not have been married in Greenburg, Pennsylvania because they lived in the Shenandoah County area of Virginia at the time. Also, I have recently found an error in Colonel Crawford's death place. Most genealogies indicate he was killed in the "Ohio Country" which is what it was known by the locals. A book on Virginia Counties indicates that the area was officially known as Illinois County, Virginia during that time. The death location would also apply to all other soldiers killed during the Sandusky Expedition in 1782. I don't want to throw a monkey wrench into your files, but this would be a major correction for those who died there.

It sure would be better if we could actually talk by telephone about some of these questions. If that can be done, my number is 803-337-6230.--Wcoup 18:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Making changes to pages is allowed, for example a page added by someone may give a birthdate as 1867, you may have a source that is more accurate, a census page may give May 1867 as the birthdate, you can update the information and add the source, if your data is a totally different year then you may want to add it as an alternative birth fact or start a discussion with other people on the Talk page for that person so you can collaborate on getting the most accurate data.
The warning tab on your gedcom list 4 people with a single letter for their family name, I have never seen any census that listed people that way but not knowing a family name would bormally mean you enter it as unknown, the husband and wife having the same name is a peculiarity of the British system where wives change name on marriage, these warnings can be ignored if you wish they will not prevent the upload.
The people and family pages are not a problem, it seems all the living people are excluded which is correct.
The places tab seems very wrong to me. The first place is 1115 Poplar Grove Street, Ward 16, Baltimore, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland which is more information than our places database needs. To match this with an existing place you need to click on the place and it will open a new view to allow you to select where it matches to, if you delete 1115 Poplar Grove Street, Ward 16, Baltimore, and search for a matching place it will correctly find Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland. United States and you can select that place. It will not lose your more accurate address that will be shown on the page when it is imported but the link will not be red, meaning a none existing page, but will link to the place page given background details of where your ancestors lived. Adding the links before importing is a good idea as the same place may occur several times and they will all be imported with just one edit, but you can ignore places linking if you wish. More of a problem is the entries futher down, like the eighth row which gives the place as 1850 census -$100, I would say that is not a place but it is linked to a place, Nome, Alaska, United States. Is that correct? If not you need to right click on the place and select unlink.
The sources page does not connect any of your citations to any existing sources, once again you do not need to do this but it does make collaboration easier, For example there is an existing source for "The Stainbrook-Steinbrook Family", linking you citations to that source will allow other researchers to find your family easier as you will be linked to from the source page. So clicking on the sitation on the list and choosing to find a matching source will allow you to select the existing source, this source will be added to the page together with your citation. The same applies to all the census entries and other things you have listed, it is great to see long lists of sources.
The biggest problem I can see is the family matches tab, there are 55 families listed there that the system believes are matches for existing families, and from the summery tab you are only importing 60 families. If you click on the first family it will bring up a page showing a possible match, it is in fact an exact match to a family you have already added, a random check through the list shows every family is a match for a family you have already added. To import the five new families you would need to match each of the families on the family match page to prevent duplicate family pages being created. In view of the amount of work involved my suggestion would be to delete this gedcom and create a new one just for the 5 new families but the choice is yours if you want to put in the work I am willing to help and advise.
It is great to hear that you want to do it right and that you back up your data with sources. If you have found pages that are perhaps incorrect the first thing would be to contact people who are watching the page, they either added it or are interested in it, the quickest way is to start a discussion on the talk page of the ancestor where you can lay out your evidence and start a discussion, bear in mind some people are very attached to their fantasy genealogy and if things do get to heated and out of hand admins may step in to provide a compromise, evenn if they are not familiar with the era or place.
I am afraid I will have to disagree with you on the subject of telephone calls. All admins here are volunteers who do things in their free time to help other users and will never get into personal calls, I have set times when I work on my research, times when I work on admin tasks and times when I try to help others in addition I do have a family to care for and other interests to follow. In my case I do not own a telephone which solves people calling me, if I had one then you would be making international calls to contact me and as I am probably asleep when you are awake it would be inconvenient. I hope you understand that email or posts here are the best solution. Rhian 10:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Julia Bucci Gable [14 March 2016]

Hello Wcoup, I followed the link you provided and added her obit and changed her named on her page Person:Julia Bucci (1). We do not want to add any living people on WeRelate so please do not add any of her children unless you find an obituary for them. I see there are 2 towns named Meadville so I did not want to choose which one where she was born.

Since you are registered with WeRelate you can edit a page directly using the "Edit" button on the left side of the page. Regards, --Susan Irish 07:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


Thank you. It was not until I sent the message that I realized I could edit it myself. I understand that I shouldn't add living people. My niece died a few years ago. When I create her page do I just ignore the fact that her parents, husband and daughter are named in her obituary as long as I don't create pages for them?

Meadville is in Crawford County, Pennsylvania.--Wcoup 08:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


Hello [7 March 2023]

Hi , I am forest Thomas hensel , son of loren T hensel. Grandson of regina hensel . Do you know how I'd go about having it show on here?--HenselFT 02:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)