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Keller-3-2009.GED Ready for Review [22 April 2009]
Keller-3-2009.GED Imported Successfully [1 May 2009]
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Possible Duplicate pages [3 May 2009]
Welcome to WeRelate. These pages may be duplicate pages: Family:Hartmann Bartolf and Anna Mertz (1) and Family:Hartmann Bartolf and Anna Mertz (2). Please examine the pages and also some of the children may be duplicates within the family page. I am merging duplicate pages on WeRelate and need assistance with your pages. Thanks. --Volunteer Administrator-Beth 08:37, 2 May 2009 (EDT)
Those are not duplicate pages--they are two different Hartmann Bartolfs--one married Anna Maria Mertz and the other married Anna Margaretha Mertz. That is one of the problems in my tree--so many duplicate names! Also . . . sometimes husband and wife share the same surname! I appreciate your editing and know my tree is a real challenge! Rose Mary--SemlakGirl 13:16, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
Thanks so much for letting me know. I will mark them as not duplicates. Your tree sounds extremely complicated. Hope you enjoy WeRelate. --Beth 14:18, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
Problem of Anna Margaretha Klee [21 July 2009]
We've been bouncing back and forth on this and I am having problems understanding the corrections. There are two Anna Margaretha Klee entries--one is the daughter of Peter Klee and Anna Maria Reichard (married to Andreas Wolf) and the other is the daughter of Peter Jacob Klee and Unknown (married to Johann Peter Renner). I've made the changes and keep getting correction notices from you. What should I do?--SemlakGirl 13:52, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
[Discussion moved here to make it easier for you to keep track of.]
I'm sorry we keep tripping over you. The problem is that there are thousands of duplicate Person pages on WeRelate from gedcoms uploaded earlier. Since April the new gedcom import asks uploaders to match with existing people as part of the process, but prior to that every time a gedcom was uploaded a new person page was created. Some of us are volunteering to try to clean things up. But as you have seen, we don't personally know the people. You ask what you should do? The best path is to look at your duplicates. See the MyRelate menu for "Show Duplicates". These are families on your watch list that the system thinks may be a duplicate. If you can work on these yourself and get them off the list it would be a help and keep the volunteers out of your hair. I see some duplicates for Anna Klee right now.
To handle the potential duplicates, click on the name in the list. You will be brought to a screen with a side-by-side comparison of the two families. Check the "Match" box to indicate the families to include (this step is needed because sometimes there are more than two families on the screen). Then review the data and if they are the same family, click the "Prepare to merge" button at the bottom of the screen. If they are definitely not the same family, click the "Not a Match" button. This will mark them to notify others not to try to merge these families. I think this is what you need.
Once we get the existing duplicates cleared up the situation should stabilize, but it's still a good idea to check the duplicate list periodically.
If you need help with this please let me know. --Judy (jlanoux) 15:08, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
Thanks for your help. I've printed out the steps re duplicates. Unfortunately there are many duplicate names in my family tree. Some of your corrections really helped me today so it wasn't all for naught on your part. Is there a way I can replace my gedcom? I've been adding lots more info since I got the Ortsfamilienbuch (a book compiled by a fellow who has recorded the births, marriages and deaths of a church in Hungary) and now I've got more info as well as more people.
Rose Mary--SemlakGirl 17:42, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
Thanks for letting me know I didn't totally ruin your day. Now that you have updated information, you have two possibilities.
1) you can upload the new gedcom and match families as part of the import process. This works similarly to the merge. The system shows you potential matches and asks you to confirm if they match or not. This is probably the best way but not necessarily the easiest.
2) you can delete your previous gedcom. Then upload a new one. The problem here is that someone else may have added to your screen. Or been merged. You will not be able to delete people that have someone else as watcher - thus you'll still have to merge them on import. But there will probably be a lot fewer of them.
In the future, a gedcom refresh process is envisioned to compare you gedcom to what you have already loaded. I believe the idea is that it won't show you people who match exactly.
To help make the choice, determine if you have so many duplicates because you've uploaded the people twice. In that case, maybe #2 will help. If it's because you and someone else share a lot of ancestors, #1 is probably best. You'll need to look at what each person has. And you won't be able to delete the other person's pages so you'll still have the duplicates.
I hope that helps you decide. If you do want to delete your gedcom, look at MyRelate, Trees. Check the "Deletion impact". Someone may have linked to your people and it's not nice to cut their tree in half. You can also check Other Watchers. This shows you what people are watched by someone else (and who). That should give you an idea what your situation is.
More questions? Just ask. --Judy (jlanoux) 18:06, 21 July 2009 (EDT) PS: I hope this doesn't discourage you. As I mentioned, the underlying problem is resolved so it shouldn't be as bad in the future. We Relate has improved a lot already in the three short months since I've joined. It is scheduled to come out of beta this fall so people are trying to help clean up all the data that was initially dumped in to get started.
Whoops! I forgot to mention...If you try to delete your gedcom, make note of a few of the person page names. Don't upload the new gedcom until you see that these pages do not appear in the Search results (usually the next day). Otherwise, the matching thingy will show them as matches and you'll be right back where you were. --Judy (jlanoux) 18:33, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
Wolf in Semlak [23 December 2011]
I'm also related to the Wolf in Liebling family tree. If you Google "wolf-heffner", my family tree will come up.
I'm stuck on my great grandmother, Katharina Wolf, b 1901 to Andreas Wolf and Elisabetha (forget the last name, might even be wrong on the first name - I'm at work :) ). She died in Romania some time before the borders opened to tourists in the 60s, but that's the only information I have. Do you have any date of death for her? She left a bunch of postcards for my mom, and I've translated them over the years. I'd like to be able to tell my mom (and my aunt) when she died and finish the chapter on her life, as it were. (I'm also looking for her partner's name, possibly Haiser, but they never married, to our knowledge.)
I'm not sure if you've come across DVHH (Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands), but there are a few Wolf descendants there, and we (as well as many others) trade information and ask for help during our research.
Regards, Lori--Writing Tumbler 10:17, 23 December 2011 (EST)
Well, now don't I feel silly, Rose Mary :) Seems like I run into you online once in awhile, chasing the same family :)--Writing Tumbler 10:19, 23 December 2011 (EST)
I've been trying to send you a message to Writing Tumbler but I keep getting a page limitation notice. Just give me a little time (so busy here right now) and I'll go through all my familienbuchen to see if I can give you more info on your great grandmother (and other kin related to her). Yes, we are DVHH friends--I do the cookbook section, the footsteps, the interviews and the Semlak page. I was just working on formatting some recent recipes in messages to be ready for the cooking page. Until I get back to you, Lori, have a wonderful Christmas with your family! Rose Mary
My Paternal Ancestors were from Liebling and Semlak [3 October 2012]
Hello, I found your information by doing a search on Yahoo. I also am researching my ancestors from Liebling and Semlak. My grandfather, John Schaefer (now spelled Shaffer) was born in Liebling and came to this country (around 1903) as a young boy. Some of his ancestors were Bartolf, Aras and Zimmerman.
My grandmother, Margaret Geyer, came to this country in 1910 from Semlak. They were both German Lutherans and lived in Harrisburg, PA. Her ancestors were Kunz, Munz, Neidich, Schmidt and Stengel.
I saw where you listed Henry Saufner in Rochester, NY, and the Killicks. As a child I remember going to visit the Saufner's in Rochester and going to the Killick's farm. I even have pictures of this. My grandmother had a half brother or cousin in Rochester named Andrew Greenwald that we also visited.
I would greatly appreciate any thoughts you might have on where these families came from. I don't know if they came from Mezobereny in Hungary, or if they were Danube Swabians?
My family tree is posted on Ancestry.com as Margaret Shaffer's Family Tree.
Thanks in advance for any information you might have.
Regards, Margaret Shaffer Beaumont San Antonio, TX--Mbeau4262 19:44, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
I have the Familienbuchen from Mezöberény, from Liebling, and from Semlak. I would love to share any info I find about your family names. I, too, have Schaeffer/Shafer/Schäfer and the spellings go on, as well as Geyer. Andrew Greenwald (Grünwald) was a relation and a really nice man. Hank Safnauer was married to my first cousin. In Rochester there was a large contingent from Semlak and they were extended family. Here's my e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org. Please contact me so I can give you info on the various families and answer your questions.
Have you seen the semlak web page and the site for Liebling? My husband and I were fortunate to visit Semlak in 2002. I have a photo album on the Internet that I can direct you to. I am also a member of the DVHH.org list. I have a site for Semlak at that site. Just go to: www.dvhh.org/semlak.
Looking forward to hearing from you. We might end up finding we are related. :)
Rose Mary Keller Hughes W Henrietta, NY--SemlakGirl 23:16, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
Haibach [22 April 2013]
Hello, I am researching my boyfriend's Haibach relatives. His grandfather Henrich Haiback was married to an Elizabeth Pinczes--Earcher1987 14:44, 22 April 2013 (EDT)