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Welcome [15 November 2013]

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I think I'm going to look at Benjamin Lanier. What's interesting about the deed abstract I showed is that we can't tell if Benjamin Lanier was owed administrator fees or if he was a legatee in right of his wife - which is why I'm wondering if the book authors simply misunderstood what was going on. Oh, well, we'll figure this out.--Sarahs 22:58, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


Halls & Hines, etc. in VA & GA [15 November 2013]

Hello -
I feel as though I should introduce myself and touch base with you as we have both been recently adding info and sources to the pages surrounding these families. I am very much interested in sorting out and documenting the work that has been done on Halls in VA/KY in the 1700-1830ish timeframe in an attempt to sort out some of my own Hall brick walls. While working on another line, I stumbled upon Family:John Hall and Ann Bolling (1) and the surrounding pages that you had created. I noticed that they did not contain much info yet, so I jumped in to start adding content. I do appreciate that you are revisiting these pages and joining me in getting the research documented. I firmly believe that WeRelate can be very powerful if folks would take the time to enter the information, so your sharing of "how you know what you know" is a great service to future genealogists.

I should warn you :) that I am stickler for building the database, so please do not be offended if I create links on some of your citations. Doing so builds more robust content that can be indexed and searched later on. I am happy to correspond and collaborate with you and answer any questions that you might have about entering sources, etc. I have found that the talk pages attached to each person or family page are a great place to record discussions about facts, theories, etc. for each person or family, so we could "meet" there to discuss some of these things if you'd like.
Best Wishes! --Cos1776 14:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi.

I'm glad you jumped in on the Hall family. I'm the Sarah Sharpless you have used as a source.

Very glad you've been doing the detail work of including sources, etc. I uploaded some of my information to WeRelate a few years ago, but haven't really revisited the information since. I don't get offended by much :) and I'm a stickler for detail, too. It's just that my detail and sources and abstracts are in my genealogy software on my hard drive - and not on WeRelate nor Ancestry.com nor RootsWeb.

I think WeRelate is great and I'm always glad when someone questions my conclusions because it makes me think! I always like good discussions about these families - and the more thought and detail and references, the better.

Sarah--Sarahs 15:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Very nice to meet you and I look forward to working with you. --Cos1776 15:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey,

Just saw that you put up "Two Unrelated John Halls" as a source on the John Hall / Anne Bolling page. I have a copy of that (somewhere), but haven't looked at it in several years. I do remember, however, that Dr. Hall has some mistakes in that document -- I looked up all his sources to verify his information. The article - and my notes correcting some stuff - are packed away somewhere. Anyway, I'm just mentioning it because there are some mistakes and want you to be aware.

Sarah--Sarahs 19:53, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I see what you mean about Hall's article and I agree with your method of verifying all of the sources. Since he appears to be so widely referenced, I will still quote him, but try to point out the errors as they pop up. Any help that you can provide in this is most welcome. It will probably take me a bit to get the citations squared away, but please feel free to point out any errors if you see them. Thanks again. --Cos1776 01:38, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Saw this that you had put up:

Hurley, William Neal. John William Hines, born c. 1600 in Londonderry, Ireland: his descendants, principally of North Carolina and Virginia and their associated families. (Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books, c1992), pp 160-169. p 163 - 1. Charles, born May 13, 1743; died c.1781. Married in Southampton County, Virginia, December 22, 1767 to Elizabeth Hall, born December 31, 1748 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia, a daughter of Hugh and Mary Dixon Hall. In the statement of accounts of the estate of his father, William Hines, Jr. (see Will Book E, page 404, December 24, 1795, Sussex County, Virginia), Benjamin Lanier appears as the Administrator of the estate. Reference is made to Charles and his wife, Elizabeth; both deceased; their three daughters, and that Lanier is the husband of one of their daughters, but not specific as to which one. The children were: a. Rhoda, born 1762. b. Elizabeth, born 1770. c. Patty Hall, date of birth unknown.


I need to find the above book. Did the authors give any sources? I could be wrong, but I REALLY think the Benjamin Lanier stuff is incorrect.

Benjamin Lanier was the administrator of William Hines Jr. (father of Charles). I wonder if Lanier married a daughter of William Hines - and if the authors of the above book simply misunderstood what they were reading. It would make sense for a son-in-law of William Hines Jr. to be administrator of William's estate.

Sussex Co., VA, WB E, p. 404, 7 Jan 1796: “Account of Estate of William Hines Jr., decd., by Joseph Turner, administrator, shows ‘balance due the Estate of Charles Hines, decd., as William Hines Jr. was his administrator ... balance due me (Joseph Turner) in right of my wife who was a daughter of Charles Hines and as guardian to her sisters ... balance due Estate of Elizabeth Hines, decd., as William Hines Jr. was her administrator ... and balance due the executors of Benjamin Lanier, decd., who was a former administrator of William Hines Jr.’” --Sarahs 21:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree that Hurley's Lanier info looks questionable, so I did not create a family page for him yet. Your theory about Lanier's marriage to a Hines daughter is also a good one. The Will Book and page number appear to be the same for both Hurley's record and the one you quote above. You don't happen to have a copy of that page of the Will Book handy, do you? --Cos1776 22:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Humes of Virginia [12 June 2014]

Hi, I am probably the main Hume editor here, and I see the conflict you mentioned between possibly different James Hume families. Based on the record you posted, it seems like this is a different Hume line (I was unaware there was another Southern Hume line), since it mentions the father being 'deceased' before 1753, when my George Hume died in 1760. Do you have any more information on this family? The main Hume line are descendants of George Home, Esquire who was deported to Virginia after the Jacobite rebellion. I believe there are also a couple of northern Hume lines that not as prolific as mine. Daniel Maxwell 15:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


Hi. I stumbled upon the Hume family while doing research on the various Dixon families of 18th century VA. I'm not a Hume descendant and, as it turns out, this Dixon family isn't mine. The Culpeper Co. deed I posted is really the only info (and proof) I have. I was assuming this James Hume (son of William) was the one who married William Carter's daughter, but I didn't know there was another James Hume. I made the assumption because this James Hume was in Culpeper Co., but I haven't done the research to nail down any info about him.--Sarahs 12:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

There is a two part article in the AGSQ I need to get to finish this family. While the bulk of the article seems to cover George Hume's son William (the son I am descended from), I think it covers the whole family. I will see if I can sort it out from that. I am under the impression that this other Hume family has no known connections to the main line but MAY be related to the family from Uxbridge, Massachusetts. Frustrating, isn't it, when you do all of that work on a family and it turns out to not be yours? That's why now I am very strict on connections/sources, I spent several years chasing down bad lines when I still was more lax (not that you were, but I certainly was!). Daniel Maxwell 13:00, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Kimbroughs [4 December 2014]

Sarahs, I saw a note you left that you've been researching the Kimbroughs of NC for 20 years. There is a possibility I may be descended from this family, and there are a couple of generations I was wondering if you could share some information on. Thanks.--Daniel Maxwell 00:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


Hi Daniel,

I haven't been on WeRelate for a while and just now saw your comment. I don't do much genealogy any more (I do a little in fits and starts), but I'll be glad to help with anything I can.

Sarah--Sarahs 08:41, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Sarah I am just wondering about the accuracy of the Kimbrough line as it is given on WR. I see where you've added some wills and such so I can see you know it. Mainly the thing I am having trouble with are two areas - is Henry Turner's wife really Nancy Kimbrough, and did John Kimbrough really married one of Henry Turner's daughters? Reason I want to be certain is that that would mean my connection to the Kimbroughs, through John Turner who married Sarah Kimbrough, would have made it a first cousin marriage. Not impossible of course but you have to double check these things. Daniel Maxwell 22:41, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Daniel - I am the biggest nerd and obsessive when it comes to finding and citing sources. This isn't to say that I'm always right :), but I do like to have proof - or a logical chain of thought and connection. I keep my research in genealogy software on my hard drive (I mainly use Ancestry for census records). Let me see what I have on the two connections you mentioned. I can post my sources - or my conclusions on WeRelate where you - and everyone - can see them. If I'm incorrect or have made a mistake in my thought process or if you have questions about anything, please ask and/or challenge my assumptions. My ego isn't bound up in how I have the lines connected. My ego is bound up in having the connections CORRECT. I'll gladly change anything if there is a thought-out reason and proof shown for the change. --Sarahs 23:00, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Sarah I am not saying it is wrong, or that I believe it to be wrong. I have only recently started to look into this. I am a source nazi. Everything in my tree - birth dates, death dates, even estimates I have sourced and I just want to get this one right. Daniel Maxwell 23:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Daniel - Please believe I wasn't taking any offense. I like having my sources questioned. I like having my conclusions questioned. Both of those help me think better! My sole goal in genealogy is having the CORRECT lineage - not the most convenient. I don't look at Ancestry World Tree. I don't look at the IGI. I do my own research and draw my own conclusions. - and I'm grateful to see the research of others (not just linking up with an AWT) because none of us are 100% correct all the time. :)--Sarahs 23:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)