User talk:Rwijmenga

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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [19 December 2010]

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WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101210.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 10:00, 19 December 2010 (EST)

wijmenga 20101210.ged [19 December 2010]

Hallo Rwijmenga, welkom bij WeRelate. I am a volunteer administrator for WeRelate. I noticed that you uploaded a gedcom, ‎wijmenga 20101210.ged. I work quite a lot with Dutch genealogy, and I realize that some of the warnings in your gedcom may be in fact be correct information (such as birth before marriage). Some of the errors may be true, however. What we suggest is that you print the Warnings and fix them on your home database and then reupload your file.

Since you are also quite new to WeRelate, you may want to enter a few families by hand first, to get an idea how the site works. We also have a Dutch forum and Portal for more information. Don't hesitate to post a message if you have any questions! Met vriendelijke groeten--Jennifer (JBS66) 10:11, 19 December 2010 (EST)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 December 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101223.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 16:32, 23 December 2010 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 December 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101223.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 17:58, 23 December 2010 (EST)

‎wijmenga 20101223.ged [6 jan 2011]

Hallo Rwijmenga, I see that you uploaded a new version of your gedcom. There is one important step before you match any of the families on the Family Matches tab. In your home database, you'll need to add the Province and Country for the places in the Netherlands. For example, instead of Amsterdam, it will need to say Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands or Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Nederland. This is important because that will help WeRelate's place matching software match your town to the correct location. You can see now in your gedcom, that your pages have red-links - we are trying to avoid these as much as possible.

Most genealogy software allows you to "globally" edit your places. If you have any questions, feel free to post here, and I'll respond. Dank u wel, --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:22, 23 December 2010 (EST)

Roland (denk ik, GO?) als je wat wilt vragen of zo.... Leo--Leo Bijl 21:37, 23 December 2010 (EST)


Thanks for giving me this help. I am already changing the names of the places and extending them with provence and country. When I am ready I will upload the new Gedcom.--Rwijmenga 18:44, 27 December 2010 (EST)


You are welcome! I also see in your file that when you have a person without a surname (only given and patronymic), you put nothing in the Surname field. I know this is technically more accurate. However, the majority of users put the patronymic name in the surname field. One example is Antje Harmens, since there is nothing in the surname field, this page will be titled simply, Antje. To give you an few examples of pages here where the patronymic name is in the surname field: Person:Aafje Jans (2) Person:Freerk Harmens (2). This allows the more "full name" to appear in the page title. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:58, 27 December 2010 (EST)


Hello Jennifer, Thanks for responding. I haven't used the patronymic in the surname field with the persons who don't have a surname (before 1811) because of the fact that there is a discussion in Holland Going on wheather you should use the patronymic as a surname or not. My softwareprogramma Aldfaer is not supporting the use of a patronymic as a surname. I am thinking about doing it or not. This means a major change of my database.--Rwijmenga 15:55, 30 December 2010 (EST)


Thank you as well for your patience with this process. I could edit just this file, and move the patronymic names to the surname field so the pages will be titled correctly. Let me post a message about this on our Dutch forum. I'll see what types of suggestions our other users might have. If you'd like to be notified of edits to that forum page, you can click on Watch from the left menu. I'll also take another look at your file to see what I can do. We'll get this imported one way or another :-) --Jennifer (JBS66) 16:06, 30 December 2010 (EST)


Thanks Jennifer for your support. I will follow the actions taken. If there is anything I can do, you will let me know?--Rwijmenga 17:44, 30 December 2010 (EST)


Ooh I just wrote my answer too fast. Don't know if you can help me with this. Under 4. Warnings there is a message of a duplicate (Family:Klaas De With and Trijntje Wijmenga (F1293060072 gedcom)). When I look for this couple in my database I only find them once. I just can remove them from my database, but then I miss the information. Is ther another way to change a duplicate into a single record? Thanks in advance. And of course best wishes for 2011. Roland Wijmenga--Rwijmenga 17:49, 30 December 2010 (EST)


The duplicate is odd, because one of the versions is excluded & marked as living. The other will be imported, it has both spouses and their parents, though the two children will be excluded (living). There may actually be a few more living people the software missed - is it possible for you to take a look through and check the Exclude box for people that are still living? One family I came across is Erika & Ron Wymenga that may need to be excluded. WR doesn't allow pages for living people due to privacy concerns.

I also want to make you aware that pages considered "early" will also be excluded. This will be pages from about 1720 and earlier. Once you are more experienced using WR, you can ask that your name be put on a list so that early families can be imported. This is sort of a safety mechanism that all new WR users go through.

If you go to the Family Matches tab, and click on one of the matched families, at the very bottom of the screen is there an Update button? It may not be there because the software thinks you have a duplicate family. Let me know either way, if there is one - I'll give you instructions on how to update (which means how to update pages that already exist on WR with your new data). If there is not one, I will do this step for you. Also, I moved the patronymic names to the surname field for the people who are not unexcluded (there weren't too many to edit).

Lastly, I have a question on a name in your file - IJlst Geertruida Berendina. You have IJlst as the given name, and Geertruida Berendina as the surname. I know IJlst is a place, so this seems wrong to me. Also, she will be an "orphan" page - not connecting to anybody else. Might you want to exclude her? Well, I think that is all for now. Best wishes to you as well for a great 2011! Jennifer Swart --Jennifer (JBS66) 19:40, 30 December 2010 (EST)


Hello Jennifer,

Again thanks for your support. I checked all the people and excluded the persons from which I know they are still alive (inluding Geertruida Berendina IJlst, who is also alive). As you suggested I checked the matches at the family matches tab. On none of the pages there is an update button. I checked the page in Firefox and Windows Explorer. If there is anything else I can do to get my gedcom file published, please let me me know. So far thank you very much for your effort.--Rwijmenga 17:09, 2 January 2011 (EST)


Roland,

Your gedcom has been imported successfully. I made the decision to include your "early" families. I moved their patronymic names to the surname field as well so they will display properly in the title.

When you have a moment, is it possible for you to upload the same file again? You don't need to process the file in any way, but I was hoping to be able to look at how the system calculated your early people, before you and I began checking and unchecking the boxes manually.

It was nice to see that you joined the Friesland Genealogy Facebook group! I only created the page a month ago, but hopefully it develops into something useful. Well, I hope you enjoy using WeRelate. Feel free to post if you have any questions. --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:59, 3 January 2011 (EST)


Hello Jennifer, What a greast job. I am really thankful the chances you have made before publishing. At my work office I don't have access tot the GEDCOM file you asked for. I will upload it later today when I am home again. And what a great opportunities internet gives. When I started in 1986 ecerything was on hardcopy in a map. And now everything is digital, including extra material such as photo's, information from the governement and so on. And like weralete provides: everyting is easy to chance with others. And it enriches the geneology. I think your facebook page will support this too with regards Rolan Wijmenga--Rwijmenga 08:53, 5 January 2011 (EST)


Hoi Roland, I'm glad that you like how your pages turned out! I agree with you that working together on a site like WeRelate does enrich genealogy. I enjoy working here and collaborating with other users interested in Dutch genealogy. We will see how the Facebook page turns out. It will be interesting to see how it develops... Met vriendelijke groeten, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:08, 5 January 2011 (EST)


Hoi Jennifer,

A question before uploading the original GEDCOM file. Is it wise to import it as a newe file or should I import it as default. Groetnis Roland--Rwijmenga 06:18, 6 January 2011 (EST)


Groetnis - that is Frisian isn't it? That is nice to see :-) You can import the gedcom into a New Tree, that is fine. You don't need to process your file in any way beyond that. If you receive any error messages such as (this gedcom overlaps another you have uploaded) - you can disregard that. Tige tank (I think that is thank you...) --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:30, 6 January 2011 (EST)


Hello Jennifer Groetnis is indeed frisian for goodbey. And tige tank means thank you. I uploaded the original GEDCOM file as a new file with the name wijmenga 20101230 originaal. Hope it's useful for you. And again: Groetnis Roland--Rwijmenga 17:27, 6 January 2011 (EST)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [29 December 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101230.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 18:15, 29 December 2010 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [29 December 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101230.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 18:36, 29 December 2010 (EST)

wijmenga 20101230.ged Imported Successfully [2 January 2011]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 19:53, 2 January 2011 (EST)

Duplicate pages [3 January 2011]

I wanted to let you know that WeRelate produces a list (updated daily) of possible duplicate people/families that connect to your pages. You can view the list by clicking on My Relate>Show Duplicates. --Jennifer (JBS66) 08:04, 3 January 2011 (EST)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [6 January 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101230-origineel.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 17:24, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [31 January 2011]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded wijmenga 20101230-origineel.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 21:22, 31 January 2011 (EST)