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= Find A Grave Memorials. [18 March 2014]

(1) A template was developed a couple of years ago (I had nothing to do with it) which seems to be preferred by most of the experienced users on WR and seems to simplify the process. See Person:Stephen Hall (4) for an example.

(2) I personally don't see any value added by recopying information from the Find A Grave memorial to the person page (example:Person:John Montague (4)) since that information is readily available through the link, and, when somebody gets around to creating the person pages for, in this case, the ten children, it will create an additional redundancy on the page.

I'd be interested in your thoughts on the topic and am certainly open to being convinced otherwise.

--jaques1724 03:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


I see you have discovered Find A Grave. Well have fun, but if there is no image of the gravestone, it is essentially an unsourced website and should probably not be cited. The template was developed to make Find A Grave links more maintainable, in other words if they change their URL particulars, all that needs to be changed is the template, and not millions of individual links. It is recommended that you use it, please.

Also, the add source page pretty clearly says surname first in the author field. Please check for existing source pages before creating new ones. The vast majority of the books you find on books.google.com will have existing source pages already so if you are creating one, it is most likely because you used the wrong author name when searching for the source and should try a less restrictive search. When you cut and paste text from books.google.com, the punctuation is removed, so it would be useful if you add it back. --Jrich 20:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


Jane McKnight [18 March 2014]

Hi!

I noticed you added John and Jane McKnight as the parents of Jane McKnight who married John Walker I of the Wigton Walker line. What is your source for that information?

Q 14:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


Don't believe I did, I did change the spelling of the town. Please change how you believe is correct, for I'm not watching this page. Thanks, Ken--Mebeforbes 15:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I misinterpreted. FYI The 1684 parish census of Wigtonshire identifies a John McKnight living in Torhouskie north of Wigton. His wife's last name may have been Margaret, as a person listed immediately after him is shown as "Margaret McKnight". Margaret, however, is probably not his wife, but a daughter as at this time in Scotland the wife typically retained her maiden name after marriage; persons in the household bearing the same surname are probably children of the head of household. The convention of a wife adopting her husband's surname began somewhat later than this. Also, while families seem to have been grouped together in the Parish Rolls separate households are not specifically identified. Margaret McKnight, for example, might have been the head of a separate household from that of John McKnight. The "Rutherford Bible" cited by White 1902, and apparently passed down through the family of Katherine Rutherford=John Walker II, son of John Walker I=Jane McKnight, bears the signature of John McKnight on its title page. John could plausibly the John McKnight of the 1684 Parish Roll, but we do not have any direct indication that he was the father of Jane McKnight, or was the John McKnight whose name appears in the Rutherford Bilble. While its plausible to list John McKnight the father of Jane McKnight=John Walker I, this is conjectural, rather than a proven relationship. Q 16:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


Wood and Fobes/Forbes [5 May 2014]

It is a good point to make, sorry I didn't observe the difference. --Jrich 15:53, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


No worries, I'm always looking in what and where, the change from Fobes to Forbes.--Mebeforbes 15:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


mistakes [13 June 2014]

You made several bad errors on Jonas Warren and Hannah Forbush, even with the correct information cited. More care is needed. I assume the errors are clear from the changes that have been made. If not, ask. In addition, a couple of comments: 1) You should add the surname to the recorded birth, marriage or death. For example Warren can be spelled WARREN, WARIN, WARRIN, WARING, etc. In a town with lots of Warrens, the different spellings can be 10 or more pages apart. So it makes it much clearer to explicitly include the spelling the record is filed under. 2) When you copy a record, it is often a good idea to check the other types. For example, on the death record: you would have seen in the birth section that Dea. Jonas had a wife named Lydia, so even if the age at death didn't alert you to the fact that it was the wrong death record, that would have. Dea. Jonas m. Lydia Harrington, your guy was Jonas Jr. (so-called because he was 4 years younger than Dea. Jonas, who would have been called Jonas Sr. if he wasn't a Deacon). --Jrich 15:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Ditto, today, regarding Family:David Packer and Rebeckah Nichols (1) and other members of the Pecker family [birth of John copied wrong from source you cited, death of John you entered was really his second marriage, Susanna wasn't born before her parents were married, etc.]. Especially frustrating after spending a good part of today cleaning up up your errors instead of working on what I planned, and carefully documenting various sources, and then you simply put back the Rebecca Nichols that was impossible (she d. 1779 couldn't have married in 1799) without apparently reading anything I put on the page. You had the wrong Rebecca Nichols. She doesn't even fit the evidence you posted, much less the other evidence that I added. Please pay more attention to details and read more carefully. See the talk page. --Jrich 04:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Please do not cite Mass Vital Projects page [30 June 2014]

For the last couple of weeks you have been citing this previously unused source and I have been fixing them hoping you would see what should be done. This has been marked for deletion and should be going away soon. It should not be a source by WeRelate policy, for several reasons, the primary ones being that it is a repository not a source, and the underlying source should be cited since that is what the scanned images are showing you, and only one source page should describe a source so that discussion is centralized. So please cite the town vital records themselves. There already are source pages for all of them. --Jrich 14:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


Nice work on Springfield profiles [13 December 2014]

Just wanted to thank you for the nice work you're doing cleaning up a number of 17th century and early 18th century Springfield profiles. They're really looking much better! Jillaine 19:49, 13 December 2014 (UTC)


Date change for Nathaniel Sikes [21 December 2014]

The dates for Nathaniel Sikes were correct. The date were recorded in the old Julian calender where New Years was March 25 not Jan 1. So you have to add two months to the month to get to the correct month, went the date is recorded as month, day, year format. Please correct the dates. Art Sikes, Sikes Family Genealogist.--ArtSikes 12:18, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


Susannah Orbin [22 January 2015]

Not sure why you are changing the information on my tree. For example on Susannah Orbin you changed the place name that was taken directly from the US Census. Dunbar and Dawson are very close towns today but they were not the same in the 1800's (please check early maps). Appreciate if you don't change place names without supporting evidence. This is my great grand mother and I assure you that my information is genealogically correct. Also editing my dates from MAR to Mar, WHY?? Jon Bayer, navybayers--Navybayers 22:13, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi cousin Jon, please take my condolences for the name change on the town.

These areas of the family lines is filled with with data entering mistakes, please take the state name of "Pennsylvania". This is just one example. One way to see if there is a problem, is to see if the name shows up in "Red", if so there is a problem that needs to be fixed. If the town is not in the database it needs to be added, just need the continuances found on wikipedia.

As far as Wikipedia, think of this project as a group project not a "my" page and "your" page. So yes, the info must stride be correct as possible, and collaboration is vital.

Thanks! Ken--Mebeforbes 04:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


Christian Walker 1807-1858 [24 January 2015]

Hello, again. You need to be careful if you want to edit these entries. The place names are important and you need documentation to change the place of the 1850 census from Tyrone Township to Broad Ford. The census record place names should not be changed. There is no evidence yet to point to where Christian lived in 1850. In 1840 he was in Connelsville and to assume he moved back to Broad Ford is wrong, please leave the place names as they are in the supporting documents--Navybayers 17:26, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


Thanks Ken for all your work. Sorry if I was too terse about the place names, thanks so much for the corrections. I put this tree on We Relate soon after it started and basically forgot about it, it is nice that some many others have benefited. My main work is usually done on ancestry.com. Appreciate all your work. Jon Bayer Austin, TX navybayers@aol.com--Navybayers 18:33, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


Watertown Records [13 February 2015]

Watertown Records is a multi-volume set. Please include the volume number, not just the page number when you cite it. Vol. 1 goes to about 1697 roughly, Vol. 2 for a few more decades and Vol. 3 is mid 1700s. Vol. 4 is the baptisms and church records of the East Precinct.

Also, please click through the ma-vitalrecords.org link and provide the real text of the source, and not the modified text provided by the website, which adds information like mother's maiden name that represents their research, but not what the cited source actually says.

Thank you. --Jrich 06:17, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


[26 February 2015]

I have as well! It's pretty wonderful to have a female Revolutionary war Patriot!!!--LisaChristiansen 05:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


Recreation of a few of the pages you originally created [25 July 2016]

Hello. I am a volunteer Admin here. Wanted to let you know that while doing maintenance a couple of your pages were recently deleted and recreated due to an error introduced into their web URL during the original creation.

  • 09:43, 25 July 2016 "Person:Samuel Fuller (1)" (maintenance ; title has glitch in URL ; moved everything to new Person:Samuel Fuller (63))
  • 09:39, 25 July 2016 "Person:Joseph Fuller (2)" (maintenance ; title has glitch in URL ; moved everything to new Person:Joseph Fuller (38))

It is nothing serious, but you may have received some alerts regarding the deletions. All of the information that was on the original page was moved over to the new page and all family links were preserved. You might want to visit them and add yourself as a watcher, so that you will be able to monitor them again. I am happy to answer any questions you might have about this. Regards, --cos1776 15:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC)