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McMorris info [25 January 2012]

No problem, it seems that my direct line no one ever did a whole lot on so I always seem to be the only one working on that line. And my brickwalls have been great. I'm very new to this & I ALMOST MISSED your message. But so glad that I could add something.--Cin 20:12, 24 January 2012 (EST)

Admiral Hawke [12 September 2012]

Dear McMorris Hope I can reach you with a few questions. First thank you for the great clipping on the Hawke preparing to depart. As the journey should only take 2 months, it appears delayed until about 1 November. This was likely to get more passengers. I am specifically following James Galbreth who appears on the Jan 5th list with the McMorris family. Only, he should be Joseph, because that is the name on the patent.

Do you know: How far distant, or in what Irish Townlands, passengers were drawn from. Where did Wm McMorris live in Ireland What role the settler had in plat selection in SC. What did they do following 5 January? How did they know where to go. Did they start working their, to be assigned, lands as soon as they could get there.

more later. Bill--Billpg 08:09, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

Sorry for the delay in replying to you. I must have missed the notification that you had posted a message.

I was extremely delighted when I found the picture of the ship. I never expected to find such.

As to how far distant and/or townlands passengers were drawn from, I do not know. Everything I have read on the matter tends to be only general facts about the passenger trade, saying things like agents traveled throughout the hinterland of a port to recruit passengers. Two things hinder me with the Admiral Hawke in particular:

1. Other than finding the newspaper advertisement and the passenger list, I haven't found any other info on the Admiral Hawke.

2. I haven't been able to prove that my ancestors came from Belfast - therefore I'm not really sure where they lived. If they were from Belfast, I can't understand why they would travel from Belfast to Londonderry to catch the ship. There were many ships leaving from Belfast on a regular basis. I have been able to find many references to McMorrises in Co. Londonderry and Co. Tyronne, though - all with similar Christian names as used by my family and I wonder if the family moved to Co. Londonderry or Co. Tyronne prior to sailing to America.

I don't know if settlers had any say in the land they received, but the following sums up the bounty system:

The colonial government began offering land bounties in the year 1731. Settlers accepting the bounty would receive 100 acres of land for the head of household and 50 additional acres for every other person in the family. They were required to clear and farm 3 acres each year and pay a quit rent, a form of land tax, for every 100 acres they received (The rent, four shillings, would become effective two years after the grant had been issued). When the grant expired and if all the conditions of that grant had been met, the settler would be able to accept a new grant. Additional incentives such as money for tools and supplies and coverage of survey fees were later added to the bounty. [1]

Since you have the passenger list, I take it you also have the following snippet concerning to whom the bounty was paid for:

"every poor free Protestant who hath not already received any bounty from [the] province, and who shall arrive in [the] province to settle from Europe within three years from the passage of this Act above the age of 12 years, and who shall, in case they come from Great Britain or Ireland, produce a certificate under the seal of any corporation or a certificate under the hands of the minister and church wardens of any parish, or the ministers and elders of any church, meeting, or congregation, of the good character of such poor protestants above the age of twelve years." [2]

The money was to be paid to the master or owner of the ship to cover the fee for passage aboard the ship (Passage fees at that time cost four pounds sterling). If the passenger had already paid for his passage, that passenger would receive the payment instead. Two pounds sterling was provided to the newly arrived settler for each child between two and twelve years old, as well as, twenty shillings sterling for all children above the age of two to aid in the purchasing of tools and provisions. [1]

From other land grants/plats that I've found for my ancestors, it seems they were pretty aggressive at working the land. Within a few years of getting the first 400 acres, they were buying more tracts of land. (I use "they" because the family kept using the same names every generation and you can't tell which relative is buying the land)

1. Norfleet, Phil, Incentives for Migration to South Carolina Before the Revolution, http://sc_tories_.tripod.com/migration_to_sc_before_the_revolution.htm

2. Revill, Janie, A Compilation of the Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina 1763-1773. Genealogical Publishing Company. Baltimore, MD. pp. 97-99. 1968

Robert Witherspoon gives a good account of the journey from Northern Ireland to Charleston, SC and then up to Piedmont area of SC in the following book:

Lixl, Andreas. Memories of Carolinian Immigrants Autobiographies, Diaries, and Letters from Colonial Times to the Present. University Press of America, Inc. Lanham, MD. pp. 12-17. 2009

Whitherspoon left Ireland Sept. 14, 1734 and arrived in Charleston, SC on Dec. 1, 1734. Below is a snippet from his account of what happened once they arrived in Charleston:

"As I said we landed in Charleston three weeks before Christmas. We found the inhabitants very kind. We stayed in town till after Christmas and we put on board of an open boat, with tools and one year of provisions, and one still mill. They allowed each hand upwards of 14 years of age one axe, one broad hoe and one narrow hoe. Our provision was Indian corn, rice, wheaten flours, beef, pork, some rum and salt. We were much distressed in the part of our passage, as it was the dead of winter; we were exposed to the inclemency of the weather day and night, and which added to the grief of all pious persons on board, the atheistical and blasphemous mouths of our patrons and other hands. They brought us up as far as Potato Ferry. It turned us on shore, where we lay in Samuel Commanders' barn for some time, and the boat wrought her way up to the “King's Tree” with the goods and provisions, which I believe was the first boat ever to come up so high before. Whilst we lay at Mr. Commanders, our men came up in order to get dirt houses or rather like potato houses, to take the families to. They brought some few horses with them, what help they could get from the few inhabitants, in order to carry children, and other necessaries up, as the woods were full of water and most severe frosts, it was very severe for women and children. We set out in the morning and some got no farther that day than Mr. McDonalds and some as far as Mr. Plowdens, some to James Armstrongs, and some to uncle William James. Their little cabins were as full that night as they could hold, and the next day every one made the best they could to their own place, which was the 1st day of February..."

You may also want to check out these sources for further research:

Holcomb, Brent H., Fairfield County, South Carolina, Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799.

MacMaster, Richard K. They Came Through Charleston, 2002, http://www.electricscotland.com/familytree/magazine/augsep2002/ulster_roots.htm

McMaster, Fitz Hugh. History of Fairfield County South Carolina from "Before the White Man Came" to 1942. The State Commercial Printing Company. Columbia, SC. 1946

SCMAR, Fairfield County Deed Book A, 1785-1794, South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research, Vol. XVI, No. 1 through 4 1988

"Passage To America, 1750", EyeWitness to History, http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com 2000--mcmorris1974 15:44, 6 September 2012 (EDT)