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Next step: Review your GEDCOM [11 May 2010]

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--WeRelate agent 21:08, 11 May 2010 (EDT)

GEDCOM Review - copied over from DFree Talk page [12 May 2010]

Hello Linda, Welcome to WeRelate. Sorry for the confusion. I looked and the GEDCOM file is ready for your review. Please sign in first, The first message on your Talk page is from me (DFree) to Welcome you to WeRelate and give you helpful links in WeRelate. The second message is about your gedcom file asking you to review it for upload. Theory is you are the best person to know about the people, locations, and sources in your GEDCOM file. Click on the link in the second message on your talk page it will take you to the review section. If you need I and other volunteer admins, and other WeRelate user are here to help. Debbie Freeman --DFree 10:38, 12 May 2010 (EDT)


Deb, I am back reviewing the GEDCOM import. I am confused why the 'LIVING' are 'EXCLUDED' and NOT CONNECTED. They are grayed out so I cannot change the exclude. I have set my Root to Jasper Leslie and most should be a distant relation of his. How do I work with these grayed-out, excluded, not connected folks? Thanks so much for your help... Linda--Kittyeben 11:00, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Hello Linda, Thank you for reviewing your GEDCOM. It sounds like the living are people that are now LIVING. They are not deceased. Please remember that WeRelate is available for "EVERYONE ON THE INTERNET" to see. So for PRIVACY reasons, as well as LEGAL reasons FOR NOW WeRelate does not have pages for LIVING people. It has been discussed, and maybe one day a section of WeRelate that is password protected will come to be. You can search WeRelate probably with the key word LIVING and look at the previous discussions. Deb Freeman --DFree 11:14, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Okay, so anyone actually living will not show on WeRelate. That is fine. I have previously had a problem with TMG (The Master Genealogist) where it showed some LIVING when they were not. I expect they were imported that way and if they are excluded on WeRelate, then I must add them later. Also, on the Family page, I don't see any spouses. They were supposedly imported. Is this something I just need to clean up once all the pages are made? Thanks for your assistance.--Kittyeben 11:28, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

I believe that is correct. Though I would suggest that you review all the pages in case one or two sneak thru. Yes you are now in the clean up process. If the GEDCOM imported some deceased as living you might be able to change them to not living and add them? I must admit I as a matter of habit do not have living in my GEDCOM's so I could be wrong about that. You can make matches if they exist, etc. What do you mean about the Family pages and spouses? Are these LIVING or other people that somehow got disconnected from their spouse but are deceased? Good Luck on matching people, sources, etc. Deb --DFree 11:47, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Thanks, I will continue on. To answer the Family Page question, even though the spouse is not living, they are not listed there. I rechecked my GEDCOM selection, and I did select Spouses. I just want to get these first pages correct on WeRelate so they make sense to other readers/contributors. As long as I am not duplicating, I will work on re-adding spouses. Thanks, again.... Linda--Kittyeben 11:56, 12 May 2010 (EDT)


Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 May 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded JASPER LESLIE AND DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate lines and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 14:53, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 May 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded JASPER LESLIE DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate lines and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 15:48, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 May 2010]

You're not done yet!

WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors.

Now that you have uploaded DANIEL MUNROE DESCENDANTS.GED, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing.

Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate lines and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier.

Click here to review your GEDCOM

Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.

--WeRelate agent 20:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

JASPER LESLIE DESCENDANTS.GED Imported Successfully [13 May 2010]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 17:25, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

DANIEL MUNROE DESCENDANTS.GED Imported Successfully [13 May 2010]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 17:26, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

Barbara Lambert Merrick sources [16 May 2010]

Hello, I am a volunteer admin here at WeRelate. I noticed that you recently added 3 new sources:

  1. Source:Barbara Lambert Merrick. Patience2, Fifth Generation of Descendants of William Brewster
  2. Source:Barbara Lambert Merrick. Willliam Brewster, Fifth Generation Descendants of Daughter Patience
  3. Source:Merrick, Barbara Lambert. Patience2, William Brewster, Fifth Generation Descendants

I am wondering, are these all the same book? If they are, I would like to combine them into 1 source page with a title that follows our book naming conventions of AuthorSurname, AuthorFirstName. Title Please let me know if these are the same, and what the proper title is for the book. Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:03, 16 May 2010 (EDT)


Yes, they are the same. Each time I added, I received an error and when I went to find the source, it was there. Sorry about this. Do combine them.--Kittyeben 18:42, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for your reply. Sorry about the errors. If you receive an error again, post a message on my talk page with some of the details. I can either help figure it out, or if it's some type of 'bug', refer it to Dallan. If you have source pages that you'd like to delete in the future, you can place them in speedy delete (detailed in the post below). If you have a person or family page that nobody else is watching, you can delete those yourself. Sources need to be deleted via speedy delete.
I created a new source titled: Source:Merrick, Barbara Lambert. William Brewster of the Mayflower and the Fifth Generation Descendants of His Daughter Patience 2. This seems to be the correct title, based on a web search, but if you need me to correct it just let me know. I also deleted the 3 above sources. --Jennifer (JBS66) 19:09, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Nova Scotia Directories [16 May 2010]

I noticed that you created 2 source pages for:

  1. Source:McAlpines Directory of Nova Scoita
  2. Source:Nova Scotia Directory

Neither of these have any other pages that link to them. Also, #1 has a misspelling for Scotia. If these are the same source, I would like to combine them into 1 source page. Also, because this source is for a specific geographic location, it would be titled something like: Nova Scotia, Canada. McAlpine's Directory of Nova Scotia

If you would like to delete these sources, you may place them in the Category:Speedy Delete by inserting the template {{Speedy Delete}} within the Text box on the source page. Otherwise, you can let me know the proper title for the publication, and I can rename the pages. Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:14, 16 May 2010 (EDT)


Absolutely. Do combine and correct. I tried editing the page but the typo in the title would not fix. thanks for your help... Linda--Kittyeben 18:50, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Linda, I combined them into the following source: Source:McAlpine's Nova Scotia Directory. Since this is a periodical that spanned many years, you can indicate the particular date on your Person or Family page (in the description field). This is preferred over creating a new source page for each year.
Regarding editing the page, editing the Title field from within the source page will not rename the page. To rename a page, you can click on Rename right underneath the blue menu at the top of your screen. Feel free to post if you have any questions! --Jennifer (JBS66) 19:22, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Person:Thomas Doty/Doten (1)

Hello,

The page for Person:Thomas Doty/Doten (1) and his family page of Family:Thomas Doty/Doten and Elizabeth Harlow (1) will need to be renamed to conform to our naming conventions. Only one preferred surname should be in the title. Alternate names can be indicated within the person page by clicking on Edit and then Add alternate name.

Please rename both of these pages by clicking on Rename underneath the blue menu at the top of the Person or Family page. That will bring you to a screen asking you to choose a new title. At this point, do not put in an index number, the system will choose one for you automatically. Just put in either Thomas Doty or Thomas Doten. You can then do the same for his Family page. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:32, 17 May 2010 (EDT)


Image Licensing [19 May 2010]

Hello, I am a volunteer admin and it's my job to help people learn the system. You asked for help licensing your images. I can't license your images but I can give your guidance. There are numerous licensing options, but most images fall into one of these categories:

  • Original published in US before 1923
  • Low resolution copy of an historical photograph. (When you reduce the image before upload, the resolution is reduced.)
  • Snippet of historical document
  • Work of US government--Public domain
  • If you took the picture, select the CC-BY-SA
  • If you know the photographer, get written permission.

Hope this helps. Please be aware that images left in the "Help needed" category for longer than two weeks will be deleted. If you have any more question please leave me a message. :)--sq 09:02, 19 May 2010 (EDT)


I am still unclear about personal family photographs that have been handed down in the family. I own them as I 'inherited' them. It would be nice if the page was clear about personal family photographs owned by the user. I expect most of what is placed on werelate are from people like me who are sharing our family photos.

Thanks for all you continued help. It is very reassuring to know someone is watching and commenting on what I am doing. I do think this site can be very useful to many if we all take the time to do it right!

-Linda Hart--Kittyeben 09:53, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

Hello Linda, I will try to help as well. As I understand it (could be wrong) the original copyright of a photo is held by whoever pushed the button on the camera. If you google copyright+photo you will be amazed at the endless pages. Because of the new "computer age" and "internet age" copyright law and practise is an evolving subject. I like you have slowly been adding my old family photos to WeRelate. You do not give a time period when these photos were taken so I will be a bit broad. I have some old black and white "Studio" photos. Most of the time the name of the studio, and location is on the photo's background. So I enter the "Studio name" and location. I probably like you also have more recent photos that are old color photo where there is no name and like you have inherited them. I know someone in the family must have taken them, but not who. So I do the "low resolution copy" option. Solveig can correct me, or add more clarification. Hope this helps, Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:23, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

Person page naming conventions [23 May 2010]

Hello, I noticed that you renamed a couple of pages to include your ancestors' middle names. Our naming convention says that titles should be in the form Firstname Lastname. Middle names and other distinguishing details can be added when you edit the page. More details on our naming conventions can be found here. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Thank you.--Jennifer (JBS66) 19:47, 23 May 2010 (EDT)


Thanks, I didn't realize that. However, I must be getting tired. I can't seem to connect Hannah Nickerson b. 1785 m. James Coops to her parents, Jesse Nickerson and Lydia Dexter who married about 1781. I think I have created duplicates.... I will sign off and try again later...

-Linda--Kittyeben 20:17, 23 May 2010 (EDT)


Working until your practically falling asleep at the computer... I've been there a time or two! Looking at your recent contributions may help to sort out your duplicates.

To connect Hannah to her parents: You can edit Family:Jesse Nickerson and Lydia Dexter (1) under the Children heading, and paste the page title from the correct Hannah - like Person:Hannah Nickerson (7). Then you can go to your other Hannah pages and delete them Person:Hannah Nickerson (8) Person:Hannah Nickerson (6) Person:Hannah Nickerson (9). I'll be around again in the morning - just post if you need any help. --Jennifer (JBS66) 20:32, 23 May 2010 (EDT)


George Leslie (37) [2 June 2010]

Hi Linda,

I don't think the marriage for This George is correct. We've (my mother and I) always had "must have died young" in our notes. Nothing else has ever turned up about him. Unlike "Uncle Isiah died when he fell in the well", my mom had never heard any stories from her Dad or her own aunts and uncles about a George in that generation.

And, I looked at the source for the marriage, it shows a Peter and Sophia Leslie of Eagle Head as the parents of the George being married.

FYI, Eagle Head and Port Mouton are about 15 miles apart. Eagle Head is east of Liverpool, PM west. Both are in Queen's county.

- John--JohnK 09:58, 1 June 2010 (EDT)


John, You are absolutely right. I will fix when I get home (am at work). So how do his parents fit into our Leslies? If at all. I will check to see where I got the info in the first place. Thanks for your watchful eye. I do want our info to be as correct as possible! -Linda--Kittyeben 13:42, 1 June 2010 (EDT)


Linda, I don't think The Eagle Head Leslies have any connection to ours. None that anyone has found anyway. The Dickinson and Leslie Family histories you refered to in one of our email exchanges says something about it too: "We have not found the connection between that Jasper Leslie and our Leslies……” and the online version of that family history talks about a Marcus Lassle arriving in Halifax then Lunenburg in 1751/1753 (with other German settlers) the name being later anglicized to Leslie, and some of his descendants later taking up land in Eagle Head.

I'd guess that any possible connection between the Eagle Head and Port Mouton Leslies is somewhere in Germany c1700!

- John


Back to Jasper... I was reading the "Port Mouton: Its Cemeteries and Oral History" by Daphne Ackermann (found at the Queens Co. Museum in 2002). In it there is a transcript (1979) of an interview she had with Robert Leslie b. 1907. When asked about Jasper, he states he was Scottish and came from Aberdeen, Scotland. And Robert, in the interview, says he is 1/2 Scottish. That brings me to how do we prove Jasper's origins? I was wondering if we had a DNA test done through FamilyTreeDNA on some male descendant who still carries the name Leslie? Do you think this is possible? If it would tell us origins (Scot vs. German)and there was someone willing to do it, I would be willing to pay for it. Any thoughts? - Linda--Kittyeben 07:29, 2 June 2010 (EDT)


I still prefer German. I've seen that Daphne Ackerman work too. I think the key problem with it is that it was done in 1979, before anyone had easy access to the 1881 Canadian census in which all 14 heads of Leslie households in PM related to us are indicated as GERMAN in the Ethnic Origin column (PM Leslies all indicate German in 1871 as well). And interestingly, spouses in those Leslie households are not all German. My g-grandma Sarah Mcdonald is shown as Scottish, for example. So I don't think the German thing is a big mistake.

Let me think about the DNA test thing. I'm not close enough to my uncle or cousins to just call them out of the blue and ask about a DNA test. I'll bounce it off my mother next time I talk to her and see if she thinks my uncle or one of my cousins would go for it. - John


Source:Novascotiagenealogy.org [15 July 2010]

Hello, I noticed that you created a page for the source Source:Novascotiagenealogy.org. I'm wondering if this is the same as Source:Nova Scotia, Canada. Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics. Also, I can't find a www.novascotiagenealogy.org - only a www.novascotiagenealogy.com on the internet. If these 2 sources are the same, please let me know so that I can combine them into 1. Thank you, --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:11, 13 July 2010 (EDT)


Thanks, you are correct. it is www.novascotiagenealogy.com. not .org. And they are one in the same as you stated...Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics. I still find doing sources in 'we relate' a bit confusing. So thank you for your help and fixing this.--Kittyeben 07:16, 15 July 2010 (EDT)


I've been here a few years - and still find sources confusing! I edited your person page, and eliminated the duplicate source. Now, both you and User:JohnK are watching the same source, and if you click on What Links Here - you'll see 2 Leslie's that link to that source. --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:38, 15 July 2010 (EDT)