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User DFree Talk Archive Page 2007-2015 Thanks for participating in your virtual community. --Kopuru 15:02, 16 April 2007 (MDT) [add comment] [edit] Thanks for welcoming me... [18 January 2011]--Gnu 23:23, 17 January 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Edward James Chatterton [26 January 2011]ha this is whitetinydog, I have the world war I draft Registration card for him. He registered in Red Oak Iowa on 09 12 1918. He was 39 years old. he had brown hair & eyes. his draft # was 1643221. He was married to Mattie at the time. he was self employed Painter at the time. They lived in Villisca, Montgomery, Iowa. I got Family Tree Maker 2011 for Christmas it also has a 3 mo of ancestry.com with it. I have not figured out how to install the family tree maker program yet. I had a good holiday, hope you did the same, hope to hear from you soon! whitetinydog--Whitetinydog 16:50, 25 January 2011 (EST) Hello Debra, Yes we had a relaxing and enjoyable holiday. I had some quality time on the beta site for family search website and found some possible Chatterton ancestors as well. It is way too early a time period and not as well sourced as I would like. It is also too early to post on WeRelate so within the week I will e-mail you the information. It is just the beginning of the research so could be wrong too. By the end of the week I will post what you mentioned on his Person Page about Edward James Chatterton if he is deceased as well as his spouse is deceased. Good luck on installing the Family Tree Maker 2011 program. I will e-mail you by this time next week. Cousin, Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:49, 25 January 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] new family member [26 January 2011]Oh I found some new ancestors. From the Chatterton side!!!!!!--Whitetinydog 16:53, 25 January 2011 (EST) Hello Debra, Sounds great!! I can't wait to learn more about them. Can you e-mail me the information? I am going to e-mail you my latest research (possibly wrong) on the Chatterton ancestors I located on the beta site. It is way too early a time period and not as well researched yet too. Too early to post on WeRelate. Cousin, Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:56, 25 January 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] welcome [1 February 2011]thanks for the welcome--currently trying to get a feel for the program--Dewey65--Dewey65 21:08, 31 January 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Claybaugh's Clinton Co. History [8 February 2011]Hi Debbie - Glad to see you watching. As I am a wiki newbie, I would like to know if I should add my copy of the above. I have a Higginson reprint of this 1913 book, which is probably identical to the version[1] already input. I have scanned numerous pages and transcriptions have been on the web for decades. I haven't yet found the preferred method of adding those. Should I just put everything in this edit box? I have a million questions, but will close by thanking you and the Fort Wayne Library, and everyone else involved. All the best, Bill--Robinsonbill 14:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)
Jennifer - That appears to be Volume 2 in PDF, EPUB + versions. I have a hard-copy of all 982 pages. I think I got it from the Higginson Book Co.[2]. They are in Salem, Mass. One of many online versions is by Sue Beach, 1996. [3] This is the 1886 version. [4] I have never been clear on the difference between the 1886 and 1913 editions.--Robinsonbill 15:59, 7 February 2011 (EST) Bill, WeRelate is not set up for adding large pdf files (such as a scan of a 982 page book would be). Smaller pdf files can be added by going to Add>Image. My first suggestion would be to have you elaborate on the Source:Claybaugh, Joseph. History of Clinton County, Indiana, the versions that are available online (I added in a few to begin). The 1886 version has its own source page: Source:History of Clinton County, Indiana. Secondly, I believe that archive.org allows people to upload their own documents (that are not under copyright). More information can be found here. --Jennifer (JBS66) 17:36, 7 February 2011 (EST) Thank you very much! At some point in the future, would it be appropriate to ask for comments from anyone on my user page: Robinsonbill/Fort Coleraine aka Dunlaps Station? I know that one can nominate finished pages to be featured, but I have not yet found a way to do something like this for a sandbox, other than perhaps the automatic notes to those following the appropriate surnames or places. This is my last question today, I promise.--Robinsonbill 18:04, 7 February 2011 (EST) It sounds like you are looking for feedback from users on your page. You could try posting a note at the WeRelate talk:Watercooler. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:46, 7 February 2011 (EST) Hello Bill & Jennifer, It sounds like Jennifer has been able to help you I am grateful to say. Feedback is one of the strengths of WeRelate. Talk Pages are quite helpful. As you might have noticed I add a note indicating that I am open to other Users opinions on my User Page. If I have a detailed question I post a message on the Watercooler as Jennifer mentioned. Have Fun & I hope WeRelate is helpful to you on your research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 23:09, 7 February 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] adding William Corbridge [8 February 2011]I keep adding William corbridge, but he never gets put on the search results. What am i doing wrong?--Corb-170 23:13, 7 February 2011 (EST) --- Hello Corb-170, You are not doing anything wrong. It takes a little time for edits or additions to appear in the search engine. The best way to confirm or edit a new person such as Person:William Corbridge (1) Person:William Corbridge (2) and Person:William Corbridge (3) is to go to your User Page. Then click on your Contributions on the right side. I looked and it seems you have three different William Corbridges created. I would suggest that you wait till tomorrow and merge the three People once you confirm that it is the same person by "show duplicates" under the "My Relate" at the top of the page. I hope this makes sense. Good Luck Debbie Freeman --DFree 00:15, 8 February 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Elkins Family [19 February 2011]How are you related to William Elkins And Elizabeth Dickey?--Elkinss 12:08, 19 February 2011 (EST) Hello Elkinss, Sorry I am not related to this family. If I am listed on one of these pages I tried to help on minor editing, or really basic sourcing. Did you want to send this message to User:Delijim instead? Thank you for the message. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:44, 19 February 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] UK [28 March 2011]Hi. Thanks for the welcome message. I wondered how many UK people you have involved in this, or is it predominantly for USA? Many thanks, Freya--Freyasday 04:39, 28 March 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] PHOTOS [3 April 2011][add comment] [edit] Unknown Photo Help [3 April 2011]DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN DISPLAY PHOTOS--WHERE WE DO NOT KNOW WHO IS ON PHOTO. DO HAVE THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, NEED TO GET THE PEOPLE IDENTIFIED ON THE PHOTOS. KNOW THAT THEY CAME FROM NEW YORK AND GENERAL AREA. WHERE CAN THEY BE DISPLAYED FOR POSSIBLE IDENTIFICATION --Anankin 21:22, 2 April 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Lots of new users today [11 April 2011]Hi Debbie, I believe WeRelate was featured in an article this weekend, so we have quite a few new users. Let me know if you would like me to lend a hand welcoming today. --Jennifer (JBS66) 05:44, 11 April 2011 (EDT) --- Replied on User JBS66 - Jennifer's page --DFree 14:39, 11 April 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] First Contribution [17 March 2012]I just updated an existing page for my uncle Malcolm Summach. If you have any comments about where I have gone astray, please let me know. Rick Moffat--RGMoffat 18:24, 20 April 2011 (EDT) Hello User RGMoffat, Welcome Rick to WeRelate. Glad to see that you are creating and editing WeRelate pages. I looked at the Person Page for your uncle. It looks pretty good to me, it has sources (THANK YOU), a death death and location. I do though have one big CONCERN. WeRelate is available to all on the Internet so I am concerned about your Uncle's obit mentioning living people's names (including maiden names) and their locations. Would you mind editing out the living people's name's and leave the obit more basic. Our concern is/would be Identity theft. Thank You Debbie Freeman --DFree 19:49, 20 April 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Scan's of Obit's - Living people [19 March 2012]Would it be best then, to not upload actual obits, if living people are listed in them? With people living a lot longer these days, many obits will not be on the site. I have one person, who has been gone well over 50 years, yet still has a sister living. Suggestions?--MLorentz 11:58, 17 March 2012 (EDT) Hello MLorentz, My concern would be the privacy of living people and following the privacy laws. If the living person (daughter Jane Doe, city, as example) is listed at the bottom of the obit. What I would suggest is you could edit the obit's scan (copy/scan the obit, crop the living person's information out, name the new file) to not show the living people. So you could list the source of the obit, upload the scan of the obit would list the deceased names, date of death, place of death, place of burial, etc but not show the living person's information. Other admins are of course more than welcome to add their two cents in. I would appreciate their input. Hope this helps. Thanks for using WeRelate. Debbie Freeman --DFree 17:20, 17 March 2012 (EDT) Hi Debbie,Thanks so much. That does help a lot. What do you suggest in regards to those still living on the 1930 Census, and the soon to be out 1940 Census records? I believe in respecting the privacy of the living, but this feels like a gray area, as they are also public records. Any help here is appreciated.--MLorentz 01:01, 19 March 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Explanation of terms [25 April 2011]Thank you for your kind welcome and the opportunity to ask a question. On the Contributions page of MyRelate, what is the meaning of the bold black terms "m," "N," and "top"? Also, what's the distinction between the blue type and the red type? For brand newbies to Wikistuff (like me), it might be helpful if many of the pages had some kind of legend at the bottom that explained stuff. Or a mouseover help box. I searched the help and support pages for 3 hours and watched some of the video tutorials (more to go) trying to figure out these notations, and have had no luck yet. I think I am thrilled with what We Relate can do. But it is not the easiest site to navigate or learn. I tried to ask this question on a Support page using the GetSatisfaction option, and it wanted me to sign in with Facebook (or some other way) when I was already signed in!!--LulaBelle 00:51, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Answer N- the big N probably indicates a Note. Usually a user has added a little more detail to a source, etc. As an example you might have a ancestor in the 1850 census that is in a unrelated household, or the head of the household is a son in law or something like that. So you might mention that your ancestor is living as a laborer, or farm hand for John Doe, or John Doe is the son in law of your ancestor, etc. m - A small m might mean that you did an edit to an existing page, it indicates a minor edit to a already existing page, such as a new source, or adding a note, etc. Top - Might mean the beginning of the webpage i.e UP as opposed to DOWN or bottom of the page? Blue/Red - Usually indicates a hyperlink status. A Red one usually indicates there is no link to an existing page. An example might be a location that is a US township or a Post Office location where your ancestor lived on the US census. Most of those locations do not have a webpage because they are too small to create so they are Red. a Blue one means that you can click on it at it takes you to the other page, such as a county page, or another person page such as that ancestors parents. You might also want to look at the WeRelate pages "Help:Person Page Tutorial"" and the "Watercooler" might help you also. I hope this response helps you, it is possible that other admins might add more details too. If you have other questions please ask them since only by the Users giving us feedback can we make WeRelate more user friendly. Thanks, Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:26, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Thanks very much to both of you! It helps to know what you're looking at. I'm working my way through all the help information, and I'm beginning to see how it's organized, sort of, but I find it rather daunting. I truly was delighted to find WeRelate; it is just the sort of website I was looking for to help me in my family history research and hopefully collaboration. Not being so young any more, I myself have a longer learning curve than I used to, and I have not previously been involved with ANY wiki more than just looking for info, so that part is challenging. But I AM LOVING IT!! And it is very nice to find actual helpful people when I'm just getting started. So thanks again.--LulaBelle 13:08, 25 April 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Change spelling of user name [14 May 2011]My user name should have been entered as Tieit and not as Teit. Need help in finding area to make the change.--Teit 19:46, 14 May 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Sources and responses to messages [22 June 2011]Hello Debbie Freeman, I left the following message a few days ago for a Watcher who probably was the one who posted the information that I referenced. Hello Dalemower, I write as a descendant of Martha Webster, dtr of Daniel Webster and Elizabeth Boyd. Our family has additional information. I am most interested in the data you have posted, and naturally wonder about the sources for your information. Can you help? Awaiting your reply. Dmpr3--dmpr3 21:30, 25 May 2011 (EDT) Is it likely that Dalemower will respond, and will he or she do it through email to me, or through a note left at the site where I found my message to her or him posted? Is the poster supposed to get email saying her or she should look at the site and answer my question? The concept of WeRelate does seem good. I have a hard time understanding how any information can be posted that does not reveal sources. Thank you. George Mitchell at geo3 at copper dot net .--dmpr3 21:04, 27 May 2011 (EDT) --- Hello George Mitchell, Thank You for giving WeRelate a try. I do hope that WeRelate User Dalemower will respond to your message by the options available that you mentioned it is their choice which option to choose though. If you clicked on the word "Watch" on the left of these pages, you will be notified if any WeRelate User changes that page. Do not be surprised if this WeRelate User does not respond. Sometimes people find WeRelate a bit of a learning curve. I clicked on the word "Contributions" on their User Page. It showed that the last time WeRelate User Dalemower had contributed was on 10 May 2009. I also took a quick look at the people and family pages you mentioned. It is unfortunately a much too common problem for WeRelate and among other websites. On those pages to the left of the page you can click on the word "history" that will tell you the history of that page. When I did that it said that these pages were created because of a GEDCOM upload. So I would guess that when WeRelate User Dalemower created her/his GEDCOM for upload they blocked their sources or did not have sources in the GEDCOM. The good news is that you or other WeRelate Users can add sources to these pages by hand by clicking on the word "edit" and add the sources or when you add a GEDCOM with sources. Hope this message helps you understand the WeRelate system a little better. Debbie Freeman --DFree 22:29, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
Hello Debbie,
I was not on top of looking for your response, and only today discovered it. I do appreciate your looking for internet sources for the Webster and Boyd families. (I am interested in both, of course.) In fact, in the interim, I discovered that both families can be found throughout the pages of all volumes of the Bangor History Magazine, which can be seen at the Hathi Trust website: Is there a way that I can be notified when a response is made from one of my comments or questions? Or, should I have received one and my email system did not let it through? I see my watcher name is in red. Best, George--dmpr3 02:39, 21 June 2011 (EDT) Hi George, your watcher name is in red because you have not yet added content to your userpage (you can do that by clicking on the red-linked name and press Edit). Regarding notifications of changes to pages, you are a watcher on this page, so you can be emailed of changes that are made. However, it appears you have not supplied a valid email address. You can change your email settings by clicking on Settings on the top right and add your email address to the User Profile tab. You can also see changes to pages you watch by logging into WR and clicking on My Relate>Watchlist in the menu at the top. I hope this helps! --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:34, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Cheraws, SC [8 June 2011]Debbie, Yesterday I saw the Place pg you created for Cheraws. I'm wondering if this link to Gregg's "History of Old Cheraws" would be good to put on that page. But I'm not sure enough of the history of that area to say for sure. http://books.google.com/books?id=khUTAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Gregg+%22History+of+the+Old+Cheraws%22#v=onepage&q&f=false I did put this on the SC Research Guide page. It has been difficult for me to figure out the jurisdictional areas and I hope someone will fill that info on the Place pg for SC. The way I've heard it is that Chesterfield, Marlboro and Darlington counties were created in 1785 out of old Craven county. Then in 1800 each became Chesterfield, Darlington and Marlboro Circuit Court Districts. Then in 1868 they went back to being called counties. And St. David's Parish fits somewhere in there! But the Place pg for SC says "the text in this section is copied from an article in Wikipedia" and there is no text! So anyway, put the link to Gregg's history somewhere if you want. --Janiejac 14:38, 7 June 2011 (EDT) Hi, Thank you for your message. I too am not an expert on SC so can't say one way or another about this. I do not have the time right now to do in depth research to help either. If we are lucky someone else might come forward and add content on this subject. If I remember right (I could be very wrong though) the very early counties created under the English was Church of England or whatever the "official religion" of that time period. I am still a little fuzzy what the jurisdiction under the US post American Revolution was. It might have been still under the church or could have been made a civil county. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come forward. Take Care. Debbie Freeman --DFree 21:44, 7 June 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Dana.delight [24 June 2011]Are you Dana.delight at Leave a message for Dana.delight: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User_talk:Dana.delight That web address instead took me to DFree which doesn't explain who Dana.delight is or even if DFree is the same person as Dana.delight. I have a HUGE concern and truly regret that I made the mistake of submitting anything to WeRelate which is why I isolated my Joseph Jones / Mary Covalt line from all my others hoping, in part, that someone out there that I have not discovered has solved the mystery of the identity of Evan W. Jones' first wife beyond her given name, Mary, and her date of birth, August 31, 1796, which I would stake my life on its accuracy. And also the family history of Harriet Bell's grandfather, Joseph Jones. Since submitting the Joseph Jones / Mary Covalt GedCom, I have discovered Joseph Jones' place of residence in southwest Pennsylvania when he was sent to Fort Washington south of present day Cincinnati, OH, but that is as close as we've gotten to his further history. Now that you've worked through the Brownfields and arrived at Harriet Bell Jones, I have a LOT of things to reveal to you, so I need, and must have, personal contact with you from here out. --Wilene Smith in Wichita, KS--Wilene 16:19, 24 June 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] message from you [29 June 2011][[5]]--Dana.delight 06:37, 29 June 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Complex [6 July 2011]this program is impossibly complex for example there is no send button anywhere how do I submit when there is no submit button--Oliveamoore 19:50, 6 July 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Complex [6 July 2011]this program is impossibly complex for example there is no send button anywhere how do I submit when there is no submit button--Oliveamoore 19:50, 6 July 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] birth/death "at sea" [15 July 2011]Hi, Debbie, Thanks for your welcome note and willingness to help with questions. I'm unsure what do do about a birth or death "at sea." I've entered this in the place field, but not created a page for the place. Must be looking in the wrong sections, as I can't find anything in the Help pages. Will you please tell me where I can find it in the Help section? 2nd question: Haven't been able to discern the difference between when to list as a "source" versus as a "citation only." Again, would appreciate Help section reference.--Gold lotus 99 14:37, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
On the second question. It is a matter of preference or what information you have. If you have added information from that source. Such as "his pension states his birth, marriage, and death and name of his wife which is" then that is additional source information. So you or a fellow researcher can learn (and cite) where a certain piece of information is located. Or on the other hand there is wrong information but most is good and accurate you might have made a note that Fact X is wrong. Or you might have made a note about that source X adds to the circumstantial evidence which proves conclusion X for instance. If it is just a name on a book. Say a County history book stating that a John Doe is living in township X in the year X, and you have other sources such as a pension which confirms that John Doe is your particular John Doe than I would probably make that a citation only. I hope this makes some sense to you, and please remember WeRelate does have Help Pages and or Talk Pages which you can search for from the top of the page under Search - All - Help or add a keyword such as citation. Thanks Debbie Freeman, one of the volunteer administrators --DFree 15:48, 10 July 2011 (EDT) Thanks, Debbie. Just realized I forgot to set myself as a watcher, and so missed your response until now. Ah, well. In re-reading my questions, realized I didn't ask an important one -- Should I leave the place field blank, if I don't know the ocean, and only include "at sea" in the description? In one case, the birth occurred between Belfast, Ireland and New York, so it could be the Atlantic, but not necessarily. Even if I knew the exact route of the voyage, don't know which sea or ocean the ship was in at the time of birth. In this case the source doesn't provide the detail. Appreciate all your help, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 10:33, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks for the extra detail, Debbie, and appreciate Amelia chiming in, too. Makes sense to include "at sea" and other details in the description, so it's visible at the top of the page, and will do so. The source vs. citation only use info is really helpful. Thanks, Amelia, for describing the new system. Think I was trying to integrate the old and new ways, without knowing there was a new way that would replace the old. Thanks again, Tamara.--Gold lotus 99 09:31, 14 July 2011 (EDT) Hi, Debbie and/or Amelia, Re: the citation only vs. source. Have just added, as a source, a message board on the Black Hawk War. Chose source rather than citation only because it provides general war history, as well as some muster roll transcriptions. Was that the right choice? In creating the source, though, I got stuck because it's a strange type. Question 2: Could someone please finish the creation so I can see what needs to be done? Thanks again, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 12:38, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks again, Debbie, and no worries for delay, hope all is well. If the Wisconsin Black Hawk War is of interest, have added other new sources on it recently. Tamara--Gold lotus 99 17:30, 15 July 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] UN Watch [13 July 2011]I would like to remove my name from the "Watch" list on several pages. Can you tell me how to do this? Thank you Jim TArbet--Tarbet 11:50, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Placing census info on family (not person) pages [20 July 2011]Hi Debbie, I understand that census info can be placed on either family or person pages, and am trying to choose which way to do it, and would appreciate your input. Started placing census info on person pages, without realizing the family page was an option. Of course, repeating the information from one person's page to the next person page is time-consuming, and I'm not sure there is a benefit. And, I don't know if there is a down side to entering only on the family page. Thanks for any insight, Tamara--Gold lotus 99 12:16, 20 July 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Next step: Review your GEDCOM [23 July 2011]You're not done yet! WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors. Now that you have uploaded WRMarthaSlate.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it. Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier. Click here to review your GEDCOM Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.
[add comment] [edit] WRMarthaSlate.ged Imported Successfully [23 July 2011]The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may now:
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[add comment] [edit] [2 August 2011]Hi there, I'm new to "We Relate" and I just saw that you're the first watcher of my page. So I thought I'd write in my regards. Godspeed, Akshay--ImperiumCaelestis 05:36, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Wedding announcement for Hiram M. Freeman & Mary Jane Weir [21 September 2011]I have something I thought you might like to have. It is a copy of the newspaper wedding announcement for Hiram M. Freeman and Mary Jane Weir. It was printed in the October 18, 1859 issue of the "Bureau County Republican." Here is the text of the announcement. "Married.... Also, at Dover, October 5th, by Rev. F. Bascom, Mr. H. M. Freeman and Miss Mary J. Weir." If you would like to have a copy of the announcement, as it appeared in the newspaper, let me know. I will be happy to send you a copy. I have also been doing research on Robert and Sarah Weir's family. My guess is that they are also the parents of my great, great grandmother, Catherine Weir (Belden). Catherine was born in New York in about 1825 and she and her husband, Orsamus C. Belden, lived in Castile, New York in 1845, when their first son, was born. By 1849, when their second child, James, was born, Catherine and her family had moved to Dover, Illinois, which is where Robert and Sarah were also living by 1852, when Sarah died. My reasons for believing Catherine is their daughter include the following: 1. Robert and Sarah were the right age to be Catherine's parents and were the only Weir family I could find in the 1840 census for Castile, New York who would have been the right age to be her parents. 2. Robert and Sarah had a son named James and Catherine named her second son James, very possibly after her brother, since the name James was not from the Belden side. 3. Both families came from the same town in New York and moved to the same town in Illinois within a short time of one another. Do you know of any information that might help me prove or disprove my theory? Also, have you been able to find information on the families of Robert Weir and/or Sarah Blake Weir? I don't know if you have seen this or not, but the Illinois Ancestors website shows where Robert, Sarah and Robert's second wife, Louisa, were buried. [6] I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 18:35, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
I double checked. It was not Nebraska. It was in 1 July 1881 in Helmville, Deer Lodge County, Montana Territory, United States. An "H M Freeman" was a Post Officer Master at this location. I do not know if it is the same person. But Montana is closer to ID than IL. Source is "Official Register of the U.S." Vol 2 published in 1881. You can use Goggle Books to locate it. Hi Debbie, Sorry about the confusion. Your are right. It was Harlow. The wedding announcement for H. M. Freeman and Mary J. Weir didn't give H. M.'s first name. It would have made it so much easier if reporters and authors from that era would have given people's names instead of just referring to them by their initials. Because of your question, I did a lot more research and found proof that Mary. J. Weir's husband was Harlow, as you had thought. The source of that information was a summary of the data found on Mary's death certificate which I found on familysearch.org. The summary also shows that this particular Mary J. Weir Freeman's place of birth was Ganesville (Gainesville) N.Y. and her estimated date of birth was 1841. Her death certificate also confirms that her parents were Robert Weir and Sarah Blake, which makes it easy to make sure we have the right Mary J. Freeman. Here is a link to the summary, in case you would like to see it. [7] To answer your other questions: 1. Yes, I have done a lot of research, reviewing and taking notes from the online copies of the original hand written census information for my ancestors, whenever possible. When I can't find those, the summaries that are available on some sites at least give some of their basic information from the census. 2. I have not looked at the land records yet, except for the 1875 plat maps for Bureau County, Illinois. That is on my to do list. Do you know the best way to do this, if you can't visit the county court house?
3. I haven't researched the probate records yet.
4. I haven't found a copy of Catherine's death certificate or obituary. I have only managed to track Catherine up to the 1910 census for Madison, Greenwood, Kansas, which lists her as living with the family of granddaughter, Ada Rue. I don't know where Catherine was living when she died or when that occurred, which complicates the process. Any suggestions would be appreciate.
The other thing I would try is the directories for the last known location. Also I am sure you have looked at the various cemetery index's, find a grave website, etc. One of the most awesome things that I have discovered is that the Bureau County Historical Society has the original old glass negatives from the entire collection of portraits and the photographs taken by local photographer Henry Immke during the period between 1866 and 1923. [8] The Historical Society will do surname searches for just $2 each to see if any of your ancestors photos are in their collection. I was thrilled beyond words when I was able to purchase photos of Catherine, her husband, O.C. Belden and each of their children from them. You might want to have BCHS check the Freeman surname and any other family surnames of your ancestors who lived in the Bureau County area during that time period (or even before, since some Mr. Immke's collection also includes negatives from some photos that were taken earlier and brought in to Mr. Immke to be copied). You might also want to contact the library in Princeton, IL and see if they copies of old Bureau County newspaper articles about your family from that era, like I did. Those historic old articles might give you some really helpful information. I had them research the Belden, Weir and Porterfield families, which is how I got the wedding announcement for Mary and Harlow. If I find anything else in my collection that pertains to your research, I will share it with you. Thanks for all of the great genealogy research work you have posted. It's really helpful.--Familyhistoryresearcher 20:28, 17 September 2011 (EDT)--Familyhistoryresearcher 19:25, 20 September 2011 (EDT) Sorry for the delay in getting back to your message. Life is pretty busy right now. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 21:25, 20 September 2011 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Education [1 October 2011]Hi Debbie, There is a free webinar today. Thought you may be interested. --Beth 08:56, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] New information on Robert Weir and family [7 October 2011]Hi Debbie, You are going to love this! I contacted some cousins I found through my internet research and one of them sent me a copy of the Weir and Belden family records that have been passed down through the generations! I have transcribed the hand written page that lists the Weir family births, marriages and deaths for the generation we have been researching and am posting it here for you. It reads as follows: Births: Robert Weir ........... Sept. 27, 1799 Sarah Weir ............ " 12, 1804 Children Catherine Weir ........ Dec. 23, 1826 Margret Weir .......... June 27, 1828 Cynthia Weir .......... May 3, 1830 Lenard Weir ........... Jan'y 3, 1833 (January) James Weir ............ Oct. 16, 1835 Mary Weir ............. Oct. 6, 1841 Married: Catherine Belden ...... Dec. 10, 1844 Cynthia Potter ........ March 23, 1847 Mary Freeman .......... Oct. 5, 1859 James ................. Oct. 185* (The last number of the year is missing) Deaths Robert Weir ........... Apr. 19, 1867 Sarah Weir ............ Sep. 9, 1856 Margret Weir .......... Dec. 18, 1837 Lenard Weir ........... Oct. 27, 1838 James Weir ............ Dec. 22, 1875 Cynthia Weir Potter ... April 3rd, 1902 Catherine Porterfield.. Dec. 27, 1912 Now, I know for sure that Catherine was the daughter of Robert Weir and Sarah Blake. :) I also know that Catherine, James and Mary had three other siblings, Margret, Cynthia and Lenard. Of those three previously unknown siblings, only Cynthia lived to adulthood and married. This information is a wonderful confirmation of the things I had suspected but had not been able to prove. This family record gives a lot of information on the Weir family and my great, great grandmother, Catherine Weir Belden Porterfield that was new to me. I am in the process of doing some follow up research to try to find more information about Catherine and her siblings, including her sister, Cynthia Weir Potter. I will let you know what I find.--Familyhistoryresearcher 14:50, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] 1865 Illinois Census for Harlow Milton Freeman [20 October 2011]I found the 1865 Illinois Census information for H.M. Freeman. Harlow Milton Freeman was living in Dover, Illinois. His occupation is listed as Blacksmith. The census lists the ages of the family members as well. Just three lines below Harlow you will see the census information for the family of Robert Weir who was the father of Harlow's wife, Mary Jane. On the next line down from Robert Weir, you will find A.E. Belden. A.E. was the brother-in-law of Robert's oldest daughter, Catherine Weir Belden Porterfield, who also lived in Dover at the time. Dover, Illinois was a small and fairly new pioneer town but there were a whole lot of families in town that were originally from New York who were related to our family. [[10]]--Familyhistoryresearcher 03:07, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] WILLIAM W WILLIAMS [11 December 2011]Hi Deb, I was wondering if your William W Williams is related to my William Wheeler Williams from Connecticut. He went to Ohio before 1812 as part of the Connecticut land grants and was one of the first settlers in the Cleveland area. I've noticed in that family there are names that repeat in different generations. Also curious about your relationship to John Giddens married to Margueritte Bergeron daughter of Jacques Bergeron and Judith Peletan. I am looking for information on their children and descendents. I have records for 7 children in that family. Chris--Azdamselfly 08:15, 11 December 2011 (EST) Hi Chris, Welcome to WeRelate. I hope that in time WeRelate will make sense to you. On William Williams (i.e. Williams Family) I am assuming you mean Person:William Williams (242) son of Family:Henry Williams and Caroline Dudley (1) anything is possible, I could be wrong, etc. Without matching the maiden names of the mother etc. The Williams family I am trying on and off to research came from Monroe Co., & Wayne County, New York pre 1850. They then went to Hancock Co., IL before 1850. There are multiple Williams family's in Hancock Co., IL. And many used the same name for their children's names. So it becomes pretty confusing. On the Giddens/Bergeron family I am not related, at one time I must have helped, minor cleanup, the page so my User name is listed. Good Luck on WeRelate and your genealogy research. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:58, 11 December 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] WILLIAM W WILLIAMS [11 December 2011]Hi Deb, I was wondering if your William W Williams is related to my William Wheeler Williams from Connecticut. He went to Ohio before 1812 as part of the Connecticut land grants and was one of the first settlers in the Cleveland area. I've noticed in that family there are names that repeat in different generations. Also curious about your relationship to John Giddens married to Margueritte Bergeron daughter of Jacques Bergeron and Judith Peletan. I am looking for information on their children and descendents. I have records for 7 children in that family. Chris--Azdamselfly 08:15, 11 December 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Chatterton and Swain [4 January 2012]Ha Deb it's me D Cady I have moved and I finally got my pc back up and running I would love to hear from you so we can catch up I am a caregiver I am off on Monday's and Wednesday's.--Whitetinydog 14:35, 4 January 2012 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Chatterton faimly Tree [9 January 2012]ha Deb this is your disdent cusuion Whitetinydog.Ihave NEW info on Thomas Chatterton faimly I found his Faimly all the way back to 1660's. if you can Email me or Call me I can give you the list of people.my Email is cadydid04@gmail.com--Whitetinydog 15:50, 9 January 2012 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Proper recording of census records as references [16 January 2012]Hi Debbie, Is there a spot on the wiki that explains how to properly record census records as references? I would like to enter it in in the proper manner but see census references listed in a variety of ways. At the moment I am just listing them at the bottom, which does make it easy for folks to copy and use, but am not sure if it is in "compliance" with WeRelate's preferred method. Thanks very much! Bearsong 09:47, 16 January 2012 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Church Records for Mary Weir and family [27 April 2012]Hi Debbie, I have some new information on Mary Jane Weir that I want to share with you. I just purchased an antique booklet entitled "First Congregational Church - One Hundred Years - 1838-1938 - Dover, Illinois." As I was looking through the booklet, I discovered the fact that Mary Weir was one of the singers from the early days of the church who is mentioned in the booklet. So, now we know that Mary and her sister, Catherine Belden Porterfield and Catherine's family were members of the First Congregational Church of Dover. The booklet is full of amazing information that sheds light on the history of the church, its members and life in that era. The booklet also contains some awesome old photographs of the Brigham home (the first meeting place for the church), the little log cabin school where services were held until the brick church was built in 1850 and photos of two of the pastors. There is also a chronological listing of all of the pastors and the years in which they served. I found the information about music in the early church that answered many of the questions. Now, I have much more information to use as a spring board for future research. I am going to do some more church research and see if I can verify whether their parents, Robert Weir and Sarah Blake Weir were members of that church as well. Earlier this week, I called the Bureau County Genealogical Society in Princeton, Illinois and spoke with a gentleman there. He checked through their records and told me that they have some of the church records for the First Congregational Church in Dover, as well as several earlier anniversary editions of the history of the church. I am having so much fun with this! If you want copies of any of the information that I have for your own records, just let me know. Sincerely, Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 18:38, 27 January 2012 (EST) Hi Debbie, I have made lot of progress with my research on the Weir family. I now have a copy of Robert Weir's will and probate papers and some of the church records for Mary Jane as well as for the family of her sister, Catherine Weir Belden. The new sources of information add some interesting details about the family's musical talents. They sang in the church. Robert's will also mentions the fact that he had given Mary Jane a melodian. Another interesting fact was that Robert named Mary's husband, Harlow Milton Freeman, the executor of his will. If you would like me to send you copies of anything I have, let me know. I also managed to find a copy of the Civil War military registration listing for my great, great grandfather, Orsamus C. Belden (Catherine's husband). The book for Bureau County, Illinois that contains the listing only includes residence, name, age, description (white or colored), occupation and place of birth where only the state was filled in, so I don't think we will find any new information on other family members from that source. Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 17:29, 27 April 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Thomas Chatterton' s Mom and Dad [10 February 2012]I think I found his ancestry's I am home on sick leave so if you would call me I can read them off my Family tree maker on my PC .I am suppose to go back to work on 2,7,2012. Hope you are doing OK your self.--Whitetinydog 17:07, 2 February 2012 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Hello! [10 February 2012]Just saw that you have a Watch to my page and wanted to say hello! Any advice you can offer? Doug--Dughall 12:56, 10 February 2012 (EST)
Welcome to WeRelate. Hope you will find WeRelate useful. I guess my advice is to be patient wiki's take time to learn. And with your genealogy research the more details you share about your deceased ancestors the easier it is for others to help and for distant cousins to link their family to your family. Time periods, locations, maiden names, etc really effect your research. Different sources exist for different time periods or locations. Land records, church records, government records, etc. The other thing we try to emphasis is SOURCING!! In an open shared environment like a wiki sourcing is very important. With sourcing it is usually obvious which John Smith is the right John Smith for instant. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:15, 10 February 2012 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Help! [14 February 2012]Hi I'm new to WeRelate and to wikis in general, so I daresay I'm missing something or just being thick. I've uploaded my GEDCOM and am trying to review it prior to import. I have warnings at 0.4% which seems to relate to 5 alerts and 1 warning. The five alerts are all okay in that the items indicated are all correct and so I want to ignore the alerts. The single warning may - or may not - refer to a genuine error. I'm inclined to think it does. It refers to the age of the mother (quite old) at the birth of the child. I'd point out that the GEDCOM entry refers to a baptism and not a birth but nevertheless I think it likely that I'm wrong. So it seems to correct it I have to remove the GEDCOM and upload a corrected version. Okay, but I can't remove it, the button is greyed out. When I try to match with other families, I get the message that I have too many warnings. Neither can I ignore all of the above and just import it because the Import button is greyed out too. Any assistance appreciated. Cheers Mick--Redesdalemick 21:56, 10 February 2012 (EST)
Hi, this is Solveig. There is no reason to remove your gedcom. Most Gedcoms have a few glitches. Even if a file is completely sourced, it's possible that someone will disagree with your findings. So we don't expect every error to be remedied before the gedcom is uploaded. That said, we don't want to import gedcoms that are full of obvious errors. We look at the amount of errors and warnings. If this is the best information you have at this time and the rest of the data is relatively clean, the gedcom will be imported. What we ask people to do is look at the warnings, alerts and errors and see if it can be fixed. You can click on the page title in the upper window and edit the info in the lower window. When you are finished, click on the import tab and click on "ready to import." Please note, you cannot do this until you have clicked on and reviewed every warning, alert or error, and on each proposed match. Hope this helps. Please leave me a message if you have any other questions.
[add comment] [edit] Snoddy family [18 April 2012]DFree: I am trying to respond to your message but not sure this will be successful. You asked whether or not the changes I submitted are in the family Bible or should have been in the Bible: 1. Mary Frances Hisle name correction--I think whomever transcribed the Bible couldn't read the handwriting. Her name is definitely Mary Frances Hisle Collins and is listed as such in the Bible. 2. The note about Robert Phelps/Smith Collins middle name isn't in the Bible; it is just a note of interest. I'm not sure anyone knows now why he was told his name was Phelps when it was actually Smith. He didn't find out his name was Smith until he was an adult, the story goes. 3. I don't know how William Joseph Collins' name is written in the Bible, but his birth certificate states William Joseph. Thanks, Lisa Collins--Lisa Phelps Collins 12:40, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
--- Yes. Good Idea. Thank You Jennifer, Debbie Freeman --DFree 13:58, 18 April 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Birth/Death certificates etc. [7 June 2012]what kind of license do I need to put down for images of birth certificates ect... I scanned copies of copies that the family has, but they are not federal documents I'm not sure if I can say I own the copies and put it on that line???? --Kissmenow 13:56, 7 June 2012 (EDT) Hello Kissmenow, Welcome. I would suggest that you look (study) the WeRelate pages called Help:Images tutorial as well as the two other pages Help:Image licensing & WeRelate:Terms of Use . Copyright is a complex issue. Your question can vary by which country that the document is from. The time period when the document was created, etc. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 14:32, 7 June 2012 (EDT) Sorry let me clarify they are state docs --Kissmenow 14:58, 7 June 2012 (EDT) Hello Kissmenow, OK. Please do look at the pages mentioned above by clicking on the links. Most of your answers are answered and explained on these webpages. As I mentioned, various things like privacy laws, the time period when the record was created, etc matters. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman --DFree 15:27, 7 June 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Updating Trees [16 July 2012]I want to update my family tree. This will add several hundred new people to my Gedcoms. Should I delete previous tree before uploading a new gedcom, or will the merges occur automatic1ly? I would hate to have to do that many merges by hand. Jim Tarbet--Tarbet 16:01, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Hello Jim, Yes you will need to delete your GEDCOM before uploading a new GEDCOM. Also you might want to wait 12-24 hours or so before you upload the new GEDCOM. It gives the server a chance to catch up. If you look at this WeRelate page Help:GEDCOM on the FAQ 1.12 it should answer the basics. Thanks for asking. Debbie Freeman --DFree 16:25, 16 July 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Help with user name [16 August 2012]You are watching the page of my cousin GayelKnott and I cannot find any other way to get help. Gayel's user name has a capital letter for her last name. How can I change my user name so instead of Nedrabrill it shows up as NedraBrill? (without the question mark <G>). Thank you, Nedra--nedrabrill 00:04, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Hi Nedra, I have copied and pasted your request for a User Name change to the WeRelate Support page the link is located on the WeRelate Main Page. Another WeRelate Admin should be able to change your WeRelate User name as requested. Please be a little patient. Thank You for using WeRelate. Debbie Freeman --DFree 00:17, 16 August 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] LAYMAN-MOOMAW 20090714.ged [21 August 2012]Hi, Debbie, I just found your message -- after about three years -- I'd forgotten I had posted this .gedcom to WeRelate!! :-(--Path90714 15:20, 21 August 2012 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Stars [7 February 2013]What are the stars that I see here and there about? Is this some type of rating system. Please explain. Thanks.--David Cornwell 23:48, 3 February 2013 (EST)
Thanks for the answer.--David Cornwell 22:43, 6 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Mathes Family from Iowa [6 February 2013]Hello Free, I am wondering if your Mathes Family, is related to my family line? Mae M. Mathis Birth in Missouri, USA Death 13 Apr. 1962 in Cheney, Spokane, Washington, USA--Angie2u 22:59, 4 February 2013 (EST) Hello DFree, I am not sure what "Stars" mean here? Were you able to find out if my Mathes is related to your Mathes family? Thank you! Angie--Angie2u 02:10, 6 February 2013 (EST)
If you look at the previous subject, Stars, you will find my response to the Stars question. Debbie Freeman --DFree 12:38, 6 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Green Kent [13 February 2013]DFree Do you have any further info on Green Kent b. 1820 in Georgia? Who were his wives, and when did they marry, and where did they live, etc.? Thanks Colin McKee--Colin McKee 18:00, 13 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Jonas Ullberg 1706-1770 [17 February 2013]I understand from the set up of werelate that you are interested in Jonas Ullberg 1706-1770 from Køping. Westmanland in Sweden. See my short article about him.--Frank Burmann 15:46, 17 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Mary and H. M. Freeman [22 February 2013]I don't remember whether I told you this already, but the Bureau County Historical Society has a huge collection of historic old glass negatives of photos that were taken by Henry W. Immke, a photographer in Bureau County, Illinois during the period when Mary Weir Freeman and her husband, Harlow Milton Freeman lived there. You can send in a surname search request plus $2 for each surname to the Bureau County Historical Society and they will send you a list of names that match your request. Several years ago, I was extremely blessed to find that they have negatives for photos of Mary's sister, Catharine Weir Belden Porterfield and her family. It is quite possible that they might have photos of your Bureau County ancestors from that era as well. I already had them check for the Weir family surname, but, sadly, they could not find photos of our Weir family ancestors, but I didn't have them check for photos of Mary under her married name. Have you? I would really like to get Mary's photo too, if it is available. Just to let you know, you can order photos from them with confidence. I have ordered many photos from BCHS and have been extremely pleased with all of them. [11] [12] I don't remember if you have already found this or not, but the death certificate for Mary Jane Weir Freeman is available on Family Search. [13] I now have a copy of Robert Weir's will and I am also working on getting copies of the old church records from the First Congregational Churches of Dover and Malden, Illinois. Let me know if you would like me to share this information with you. Sincerely, Robin--Familyhistoryresearcher 17:12, 22 February 2013 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Robert Weir [11 March 2013]The Sally Wilson Family Tree on Ancestry.com has an entry that matches our ancestor, Robert Weir. Have you seen this or connected with her? [14]--Familyhistoryresearcher 19:11, 11 March 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] hello [14 March 2013]Thank you for the message, although I am embarrassed to say I don't know what part of the family we are connected to. I dont mean to sound dumb, but I have never really known much of my family. Leaving home at a very early age (16) my first marrage lasting almost 35 years. I really lost touch. My mom, Bobbie Jo as she liked to be called tried very hard to united us all over the last 10 years or so before her early passing. Sadly, with her passing also passed the passage to connection. :) I am still very glad to see a line of communication beginning, happy is a better word. I hope it continues and bloosms into a true and life long one. Cynthia (Cindy)--Cindygirl2u 11:17, 14 March 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Welcoming users [15 April 2013]Hi Debbie, I've been noticing that WR has more new users registering than usual. We've also been getting more spam than usual. I believe that many of the "users" welcomed each day are actually spammers and not real users. We could create an automated welcome message instead. The other option would be to welcome only the new users who have made an edit (and make sure that edit is not spam). How do you feel about these ideas and have you noticed that welcoming users takes more of your time? Do you have other ideas for making welcoming easier? Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:31, 14 April 2013 (EDT) Hi Jennifer, Good to hear from you. I am OK with an automated Welcome message chose. In my opinion some of the WeRelate news users need a path to follow with the Welcome links so they can understand what is WeRelate, and how to use WeRelate. I would not be surprised that the spammers are more, but I admit I have been busy with other things so I have not been paying attention too closely on the logs list. I will continue doing the Welcomes by hand until I receive a final decision. Sound OK to all? --DFree 16:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
[add comment] [edit] Eli VanGuilder [9 August 2013]Hi Debbie! I just found this website yesterday, because of your page on my 4th great grandfather, Eli VanGuilder. I have added some information, but I was curious if you have ever been able to make a connection for Eli's parents. I have a strong suspicion that Achsa VanGuilder, is a sister, but not positive. There is a connection between the VanGuilder's and the Love's in the area, but I haven't bee able to solidify this yet. I do have some information that I was not able to add to the tree, because of licensing issues. I am not sure how you are related to Eli, but if you are interested, I would be willing to email the documents to you. SO happy to find someone else researching this VanGuilder line! Cindy Gillispie--Cinray23 10:36, 9 August 2013 (EDT) [add comment] [edit] Giles or James Sullivan [25 December 2013]I am a descendant of Giles Oldham Sullivan who I think was born in KY, son of Capt James Sullivan according to records I have found online. He was a "Very interesting Character" and has many references in Settlement and History of Missouri, Iowa and Texas. He ended up as a Texas ranger and apparently died there. He was an Independent Indian Scout for Wisconsin Territory and Iowa Territory. Was part of a Cattle Drive from St Charles, MO to British Columbia in 1815. Ran out of Iowa for "kidnapping" a negro to return to Missouri. He then moved to TX and helped found Cameron TX. His nephew and namesake was one of the most famous Texans: "Lawrence Sullivan Ross" I was wondering if you have additional information on him, or provable references on him being the son of James? Sincerely, Ed Scharff--Skyshepard 22:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC) [add comment] [edit] Celah Allen [17 December 2014]father William Allen, son of John Allen and Ursula Withers mother Mary Bradford--SHIVES 20:43, 17 December 2014 (UTC) |