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Southwest Virginia Project [26 February 2009]

Hi Cwatan

Thanks for the typo correction. (My typing is terrible, and I'm greatful for all the help I can get!).

I noticed when I edited the page previously that you had marked it for watching. Hence you were notified of my edit. Eventually I'll create some additional companion pages to go along with this one---for example, a list grouping early settlers by watershed, and another list ordered by settlement date.

May I ask what your interest in this page is? Are you interested in the genealogy of southwest Virginia, or is it something else that caught your attention? In anycase, there are a couple of other pages which might be of interest to you, if you haven't seen them. Check Land in Southwest Virginia for a list of links. Most of these articles are more stub than article, but some are fairly well along. You might be interested in Settlement Patterns in particular. Q 09:03, 26 February 2009 (EST)


There is a Thomas Brumley listed. I marked it to watch because of the family surname. I don't know whether this is one of my ancestors yet. I've just recently determined my mother's paternal grand-parents, William Thomas & Nancy Clements Brumley (1800s).

I do have a question though--what is the meaning of the initials MSFCR?

Thanks, Cynthia--Cwatan 11:38, 26 February 2009 (EST)

HI Cynthia

Always good to know the connection of interest. Thomas Brumley is on my list for future work. I know a little bit (very little) about him because he ties into another line that I've done some work on (not here), the Sifers; he also appears on an assignment chain with one of possible ancestors Henry Willis. Thomas left his mark on the area topography in the form of "Brumley's Gap", and "Brumley's Mountain". Brumley's gap is a small Gap close to the community of Holston. I think Thomas, or his family, owned land here at a latter date (c. 1800). The nearby larger Gap through which US 19 passes was a significant portal connecting the Clinch watershed with the Holston. I've been to the area and Brumley's Gap is wholly unimpressive. The US 19 Gap has been much reworked by road construction, but in its day must have been a daunting challenge for those wishing to cross the mountains.

The Creek that flows south through Brumley's Gap is a tributary of the North Fork of the Holston. The MSFCR stands for "Maiden Spring Fork Clinch River". Its a tributary of the Clinch, and drains the Burke's Garden area. I presume that Thomas owned land in this area early on, and that this is where he was living about the time of the Revolution. Maiden Springs was a flash point in the 1774 Indian Wars, and not at all a safe place to live---very exposed to Indian raids coming down from the north. Q 12:27, 26 February 2009 (EST)


Dear Q,

Thanks so much for the information. I don't have any connection to the Sifers but will keep this in mind as I continue my search. It's great to learn about the area. I've been reading the history of the Natchez Trace as a way of thinking about my ancestors' migration. My husband & I travel various parts of it when we can.

Take care, Cynthia--Cwatan 13:25, 26 February 2009 (EST)


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