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MURRAY FAMILY OF SELKIRK SCOTLAND MATCHES MORROW FAMILY IN USA Y~DNA (37) [14 January 2010]

Morrow of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Ohio & Gettysburg,

My name is Alexandrina Murray from Sydney Australia. My father who is 94 years old and a MURRAY has submitted a 67 marker yDNA test with Familytree DNA.The purpose of this post is to inform other members of Morrow research society etc that my father's results are now in and the 25 , 37 and 67 marker test matches with Morrow family members related to

the following 4 or 5 distinct Morrow-Murray families. My own Murrays were stated to be descended from Murray of Philiphaugh in Selkirkshire:

Thomas Morrow born 1797 married Matilda Blair- in Pennsylvania -they lived in York County in the same town as Governor Jeremiah Morrow of Ohio and his family.

Thomas Morrow and Matilda Blair were the parents of Physician- Doctor Lafayette Blair Morrow born 1830 circa in Ohio. There were a number of other siblings of this couple. The family moved to Pennsylvania- Maryland, Ohio, Illinois and elsewhere. Thomas appears to have had a brother names Abel Morrow who married Lucinda Blair- sister of Matilda. There were a number of descendants of this couple.

Thomas Morrow is said by some researchers to be a son of Governor Jeremiah Morrow of Ohio, who was the father of eleven children who survived him, and a number who died in infancy. Jeremiah Morrow born 1771 circa was a son of John Murray and Mary Lockhart of Pennsylvania. John Murray's name is cited in the historical records of Ohio to have morphed to the name Morrow in the 1770's. John Murray born 1740 circa was a son of Jeremiah Murray and his wife Sarah Murray. Jeremiah had emigrated to Gettysburg area where he was an elder in the Covenanting Kirk - dissenting United Presbyterians- in that area. This was 1745 circa. His family were of Scottish descent and hailed from the Ettrick Forest area in Selkirkshire and Traquair to Eddleston area of Peebles Shire. Originally the family were known as Murrays of Falahill(in Midlothian). Their particular line though became known as Murray of Philiphaugh.

Colonel Adam Murray defender and hero of Londonderry 1685 circa, was named in historical records of Ohio and elsewhere as the father of Jeremiah Murray senior. Samuel Murray- brother of Adam, is also a possible father of Jeremiah senior in my opinion. Samuel was a Captain in the Army and was also recorded in the annals as being at the Seige of Londonderry as brother of Adam. Adam Murray and Samuel Murray were two of the children of Gideon Murray of Philiphaugh and his wife Sarah Mackie, they had another son named John in 1711. Gideon , a Captain in the Horse Guards was expelled from Selkirkshire Scotland over to Derry at Ling in Ireland, on account of his Covenanting activities.

Alternative parents of Thomas Morrow b. 1797 may be William Morrow and Barbara Anne Zantzinger. This family were involved in the Rumsey steamboat affair and our DNA result also matches this William. William's brothers were said to have been Colonel John Morrow, Captain Charles Morrow, and perhaps James Morrow. Quite a bit of historical material has been archived regarding this family. Mr Walter Morrow (Walt Morrow) previously cited on this forum has thoroughly researched this family and noted the 'missing Thomas Morrow born 1797 circa' from this lineage.

Our DNA Matches 25/25 include descendants of Thomas Morrow and Matilda Blair , cited above, also- Matches 34/36 William Morrow and Barbara Anne Zantzinger- namely Edwin Porch Morrow & family also early Governors (judges? details shortly)

Also similar matches George Morrow who is said to have married Mary Calhoun 1755 circa in North or South Carolina , lived Georgia? Maryland and Pennsylvania (TBD). Accordingly the 25 marker test also matches 24/25 . Most importantly though the 37 marker test result has just returned with a 99% positive result of a common ancestor within a certain timeframe.

I have been in contact with Morrow family members and stated that it appears that I can trace the Morrow family back to Selkirk in Scotland.

According to the DNA result there IS a relationship between our families and MURRAY and MORROW MORRAY MORAY MURRAH are one in the same family. The morph occurred according to the transcribed name being written as heard (thick scots accents). Also citing the following comment:

" The great family of Murray whose name is pronounced as Morow in the Scottish Borders" dated 1820 circa.

Please also note that George Morrow who married Mary was arguably GEORGE MORRAY married MARY FLEMING 1763 in Pennsylvania. Perhaps he married 3 times, not twice.

Please contact me at any time for further information: I have a very extensive gedcom available 4,500 individuals. I have the Murray family tree going back to 10 to 20 generations in Scotland.

My parents were both born in Scotland and Father's family from Selkirk.

Sandie--Alexandrina Murray 02:10, 19 September 2008 (EDT)--Alexandrina 21:42, 18 January 2010 (EST)